Pain in the heart 💓

Just thinking about the fact that - 

Brahmins in Tamilnadu have absolutely, literally NO CLUE about the 100 years of a most extraordinary hate which was directed against them...Nattukottai Chettiar, Saiva Pillai and Mudaliars, supposedly the topmost and most devoted, ritualistic tamil castes built this hate, and have kept it alive. In 1916, in 2023.

There is no 'church' here. That was a small period in 19th century. All the brahmin hate of TN is from Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai and the cause is caste jealousy and hate. The larger sociopolitical movement, the 'Dravidian' Movement was a confluence of many other caste groups. It is the ruling political ideology of tamil country for a century. The identity. The actual power shifted hands and is dynamic. But the identity and the narrative was and is always from the vellalas.

I didn't know before I came into this in 2017. Most Brahmins don't know it even now. They are absolutely clueless about Tamil society. Apparently, 'vellala' is the caste name. The umbrella term. Pillai and Mudaliar are supposed to be caste titles. Like Singh, Rao, Thakur, Naidu. Nagarathar is the caste name.

So, Nagarathar-Vellalar is the caste name in pristine tamil. But, Sengundhar/Kaikolar are not vellalas. They use Mudaliar title.

Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai is the more identifiable grouping, and it covers all the key players.

But Nagarathar-Vellalar is the pristine caste name, and the source. As is the case with everything in tamil lands, the real stuff is hidden. Vellala casteism (and that's a very very real, and concrete thing) is the source of the 'Dravidian' Movement, and one hundred years of Brahmin hate in Tamilnadu. A hate unlike any other in the~6000 year old history of human civilization. I am not at all exaggerating. Hopefully, someday, when I show you what it was like, you'd agree with me. The most hateful, malicious, venomous people on earth. Not just Nagarathar-Vellalar. The entire tamil society and race is like that. Remnants of the rakshasas and asuras and vanaras which Indian epics talk about. Brahmins are not tamils. Technically too, and also, hankfully, tamils have formulated tamil identity as one that is not defined by language. Those who speak marathi, gujrati, telugus are said to belong to that group. But that is not so with Brahmins who speak tamil. The tamil identity extends beyond the spoken language. Today, they are trying to change it. The criminals are undoing their games and creating distortions to erase records of their crimes.

The most hinduest tamils, chettiar-mudaliar-pillai are the creators of 'Dravidian' Movement and a hundred years of Brahmin hate in Tamilnadu. 99.99% Brahmins have no clue about this. Sad. I was really surprised to see a man called Kalyan on Twitter say "Of course, I knew all this". Because, I never ever heard this from anyone. I told all the stuff to one of my relatives. He was really surprised, and said "Chettiar, Mudaliar? They are deep hindus". And he didn't want to hear more of it because it was too toxic. He didn't want to talk about caste. It is taboo. They don't know and then choose not to talk. They don't know at all! They keep their eyes shut!

Its the greatest tragedy that my people have not developed the strength of mind to see the ugly face of the most hateful society and race on earth. It is unique in the whole world. Maybe any other group would have fared just the same. But I don't see any effort from our side at all. Worst...when I share my observations with them, they refuse to look at it.

Nattukottai Chettiar and Vellalas (Pillai, Mudaliar) created the Dravidian Movement. Pretty soon, their position was challenged by lower shudras. The lower shudras, especially Nadars, did huge service to Dravidar Kazhagam, the ideological source of the 'Dravidian' Movement.

An organization such as the 'Dravidar Kazhagam' can exist nowhere on earth. A very methodic and structured organization that has the sole aim of spreading hate. Again, please do not get irritated by these words. These may sound like exaggerations and I totally get it. But if you see what I see, you'd agree with me.

Nadars, Vanniyars and Konars, the primary lower shudra servants of the Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement, challenged the mudaliar/naidu hegemony on the political front, but gave whole hearted support to the vellalas in the ideological camp. It is complicated. I'll explain this in detail in another post. The lower shudras didn't want to remove the dominant groups. They just wanted to reach parity with them. They didn't seek to overthrow them.

The 'Dravidian' narrative was set by the most elite of tamil lands. So, the lower shudras willingly espoused these ideals and became its propaganda channels because, for them, it was a cultural lift. It was a level up from their existing state. Remember, sanskritisation of the masses was very very recent in tamil lands. Caldwell has mentioned that Nadars were doing demon worship. Even opposing the organized, 'vedic' religion was a level up for the lower shudras. Because, they were outside the circle. You get inside the circle even by opposing. When you espouse, you get deeper inside the circle. That's what the lower shudras are doing today. Ditching their old clothes and wearing a different, orange garb.

I am not foolish enough to oppose sanskritisation or emergence of new middle classes. That is a natural phenomenon that happens everywhere. My focus is on that thing which has not, and cannot happen in any other society on earth. The 100 years of Brahmin hate.

My problem is - Tamil society will slowly slowly slowly slowly dump and bury this mountain. The wave of RW today is the first sign of this. The same lower shudras who bore the Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) palanquin are today in BJP/RSS, opposing that very movement. Not just that...the tamil mind itself is different from all other societies. It is a unique race. It is not a complicated criminal mind. It is a primal, semi-savage, perverse and wretched mind. Not just the lower shudras...The very vellalas (esp saiva vellala) who are the progenitors of the 'Dravidian' narrative, and the sole source of ALL the Brahmin hate of TN, for DK, DMK, Periyar, Karunanidhi, are leading the narrative at BJP/RSS. India has no clue about this. 'India', which was created by the British, doesn't care, too.

Its like the criminal committing the crime first, then putting police uniform, and investigating his own crime, and then wearing the judge's gown, and pronouncing judgement for the crimes. It is the same person. He knows nobody is watching. He knows nobody knows enough about him and his society, to point out this fraud. Who has to point out? Who knows? Only me.

My greatest regret is - today, they are playing different games, but Brahmins have 0 clue even about the phenomenon of the hate. Today, tamils, vellalas are covering it up, distorting it.

Look at Sree Iyer even today. The only thing he knows is to defend hinduism/traditions/dharma. So, his enemy cannot be anything other than anti-hindu. Look at this moron. This is him today.

Imagine Brahmins after 50, 100, 300 years. They'd have no clue. Hell, even the phenomenon of the 100 years of continuous Brahmin hate in TN would have been erased by tamil society by then.

What pains me most is - my people have no clue about it even now. The most extraordinary phenomenon on earth is going to get swallowed up silently, slowly.

Going to try my best to show people what I know. If I had gotten from my caste people the same reaction, the same deep shock that I received, and receive, I'd have had no regrets. That's all I ask of you. See what I see. You can not see it and not be shocked. Because this hate is unique in the world.

Why do I feel like this? Because I am a Brahmin from Tamilnadu. That's the identity on which the hate is heaped. You and me need to have absolutely nothing else in common, to feel like this. If your identity is the same as mine, you should feel like me too. You should have gotten the deep shock. Why is that not happening? 

Because, so much depends on many of us seeing what I see. The malice and hate which we seek to expose is most deepest. It is unlike anything else in the whole world. Unlike anything in history of human civilization. How could you be blind to this? I don't understand.

I get nothing out of this. But, just thinking about this pains my heart deeply.

What's the incentive for doing this? Knowing the hate of tamil society? Knowing the source of the most unique hate on earth?

Not just that. There's a lot more. We are in an existential crisis. The door has already been closed. Now, whoever got in while it was open...its all up to you. And remember, there are impersonators and imposters. Always.

In the crosshairs of #drav

Had to happen sometime. Let's see. I'm not prepared in the least. But, its a good way to hasten things and shake oneself out of complacence and sloth. Get stuff done when alive. If alive till the end, maybe will even achieve the intended objective.

Also, I've been using SM as a scribbling pad. That's the approach you need in order to study something of this size and depth. I knew in my heart of hearts that I had to start thinking and expressing systematically. Maybe now's the time.

It's all good in a way. If someone knows good hackers, let me know.

USA's Champakam Dorairajan Case

 

Cisco Sundar Iyer's case.

Saw this just now.

Seems exceedingly fishy. This seems thoroughly doctored by Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Movement. The summit of malice and hate of all humankind.

The fact that the other candidate that Sundar hired was dalit, is the pointer. So, somebody, some lawyer/activist group very very meticulously and systematically planned it to be so. A surgical strike. Tamils are mighty good at this.

Sundar fool, like all Brahmin fools in Tamil country, is looking in the wrong place. With tamils, the enemy is always, always, always inside, next to you. Saying and doing the same things as you. Having the same views. But...

Can smoke out the criminals only if more people see and know what I do.

Somebody's 10 points about Karunanidhi and my response to those.

 The points

My response -

NEET-DMK-BJP-Gavundans

 

Link to the tweet -> https://mobile.twitter.com/sumanthraman/status/1489871046933037059?cxt=HHwWhoCqmdr0iq0pAAAA

Apparently, poor old Andimuthu Raja is saying ADMK opposed NEET knowing fully well that it was futile. And Vanathi Srinivasan is mocking it.

Fun fact - Vanathi Srinivasan, Edappadi Palanisami, Annamalai Kuppusami, Subbulakshmi Jegadeesan are all Kongu Vellala Goundars.

To all Brahmins supporting Annamalai Kuppusami Gavundan...

Just like I often say, what's more disturbing than the Brahmin hate of Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement, is the stupidity and tactlessness and haplessness of brahmtards of TN.

The most important point, for me, in this tweet is '*...has been sent...*'.

'...has been sent...'? By whom? Do tamils not have any brains of their own?

Brahmtards themselves are oblivious to the 100-yr old vicious hate propaganda against them. Tamils have been told that Brahmins are trying to destroy them and their culture for a century, and that they *always* come indirectly, never directly. Apparently, they use tamils against themselves. You can never disprove the evidence of an invisible brahmin hand. The vellalas oppressed lower castes for centuries, yet, brahmins are responsible for it. Thevars are casteist and murder dalits, but brahmins are responsible for it. Naam Nadar Katchi opposes Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement using Tamil Nationalism, but Brahmins are responsible for it. Chettiars, Mudaliars  built schools where they forbade education for lower castes but Brahmins are responsible for it.

'...sent...'? What do u mean 'sent'? Do u see that vellalas from this side (#drav side) say one thing, and vellalas from that side oppose it, but the blows land on the brahmins alone? Do u see that? The RW tamil dogs don't endorse it, but they don't question it either. If Dravidian Movement attacks Gounda dogs, Saanan dogs or Palli dogs even for a single minute, they will be under heat. But they have been raining hate on Brahmins non-stop for a century. The RW don't have to join in, and don't have to oppose it. They can just remain indifferent. Will they remain indifferent if that hate is directed against their caste? So, all tamils secretly approve of that hate. That hate lived because tamil demons are okay with it.

What is today's RW in TN? Who is Kuppusami Gavunda dog? Read these posts  : 

TN BJP to Contest Alone (without ADMK alliance) in 2022 Local Body Elections

2021ல் தமிழ்நாட்டு அரசியலில் கவுண்டன்

Why do even brahmtards make the capital mistake of thinking Annamalai Kuppusami Gavunda dog is 'our man' who fights the bad, anti-hindu guys? Like, seriously? Please!!! This is the mistake that Brahmins and India always make, and it is purely due to inattention and disinterest. You simply don't do the due diligence required to understand this unique race. You always think you are very craftily using tamils. But tamils are using you.

Why don't you ask this simple question - "How is there so much opposition to Dravidian Movement TODAY? Where were these guys all these decades? It has been a century. What does it matter now if it is opposed or not? It will fizzle out anyways"

What's happening is...the ex-soldiers of Nagarathar-Vellalar (dravidian) are jumping out just before it is going to fizzle out, and opposing their own vehicle. The aim is to distance themselves from their home of one hundred years. They are guilty of crime, and they want to destroy records and evidence of their involvement in it.

ADMK was formed by the mudaliar-chettiar who created DMK, after being sidelined in their own party. Kallar, Maravar and Gavundar were the key numbers for ADMK. But the Gavundars were probably sick of the thugs. So, they cut the link of  Mannargudi Mafia in ADMK, while they flew to create a new force in BJP.

Gavundans/Vellala/Mudaliar didn't allow BJP to grow for so long. But after their sabotage of ADMK, they *cleaned* TNBJP of Brahmins (you know what im talking about), and then when their man, the Gavunda dog is at its helm, they are giving importance to it. Now, TN BJP will grow and succeed in TN because now it is a Dravidian party. Old wine in new bottle. Now, the criminals have successfully donned police clothing and investigating their own crimes. They fool the outsiders because the outsiders neither know, nor care about tamil society. They only care about it being a 'hindu' land. Hindutva is not desperately trying to enter TN. Tamil demons are judging the the time and clime and silently discarding their black #drav robes, and putting on saffron. But what's sad is even the brahmtards of tamil country falling for this.

See this.

This is the most ludicrous comment I have seen in some time. Apparently, Brahmin hate is a diversionary tactic to divert from Annamalai's popularity and other attacks at Drav movt. 😁😂

Dravida Mudaliar Kazhagam might have bombed in Kongu, but Kuppusami Gavunda dogs caste men have the highest number of ministers in DMK cabinet. They have the highest posts. Periyar was from Kongu. They are fooling the outsiders, and the insider retards are already fools only.

This is what I meant by 'highjacking the narrative'. This is what I meant when I said the 'frame' will change, and the new frame will not allow any stuff about the old 'frame' to be discussed. They will discuss it only superficially, like calling it anti-hindu. They will distance themselves from it. The old 'frame' was the frame within which socio-politics of entire tamil society happened, for one hundred years.

This is not an opposition to Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian). This is #drav wrapping up, and escaping the crime scene by employing disguise. This is #drav's endgame, not an opposition to it.

TN BJP to Contest Alone (without ADMK alliance) in 2022 Local Body Elections

I told you. I have been telling you all along. The party called 'AIADMK' will cease to exist in a few years until something dramatic happens!

The gavundans undid the hold of kallans in ADMK, starting from 15 years back. Exiling of Mannargudi Mafia in 2011, and complete ousting of kallans post - "dharmayudham" (Read -2021ல் தமிழ்நாட்டு அரசியலில் கவுண்டன்) was the Kongu Vellala Gavundans' doing.

ADMK was the party started by the same Chettiar+Mudaliar who started DMK, after being sidelined in their own party in 1969.

The Nattukottai Chettiar dog R.M.Veerappan was the one who built ADMK, using the face value of that malayali fool, MGR, to pull crowds. The gavundans are known to have supported that MGR faction even during that time.

MGR vs. Karunanidhi was actually Mudaliars vs. Vanniyars et al. Chettiar+Mudaliar started ADMK after the pallis highjacked Dravida Mudaliar Kazhagam, but kallar, maravar and gavundar were important powers in ADMK. Kallar & Maravar were always comfy with ADMK, and Agamudayars were comfy in DMK. You can see this testimony from the Agamudayars' own mouths. There is friction between them.

The gavundans were probably pissed off with kallar-maravar taking up too much space in ADMK. So, in the first decade of 21st century, they started undoing the kallans' hold in ADMK. This led to a migration of kallans to DMK. One small kallar faction (Pe. Maniarasan & co) started taking up tamil nationalism with Naam Tamilar Katchi around this time. The kallars started getting positions in DMK probably to attract the kallar votebank which would have been disgruntled with ADMK. Considering the history and behaviour of kallans, i guess what made them important to DMK was more than just their votebank/numbers

The gavundans broke the hold of kallans in ADMK, then created a plan B in the form of TN BJP. Brahmins have been kadharifying (wailing in agony) from TN BJP for decades, they have been crying 'anti-hindu' at Dravidian Movement for centuries. But they got no media coverage, nothing.

But the gavundans jump over to TN BJP and say the same thing, just see how much media limelight they are getting. Because it is arranged. The gavundans are playing the same old hundred year old double game that chettiar-mudaliar-pillai have been playing, and which vanniyar, nadar, konar joined, some time back. They are the last. They are dominant today. Kongu region is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of TN, thanks to british occupation. It was made into an industrial center during the 2 world wars, for supplying to the british. 'Kovai Media' bought out SwarajyaMag in 2015 I think.

Gavundans are eyeing TN BJP as their next base. ADMK is going to be discarded, mostly. Kallans are jumping to DMK. Gavundans are jumping to TN BJP. Vanniyars are also eyeing TN BJP, and that's why the gavundans attacked the vanniyans, in 'Jai Bhim' movie. They have unwanted friends in TN BJP too. Pretty soon, the agamudayars will either fight with kallars in DMK, or jump to TN BJP. We might see many 'New Hindus' in TN.

Do not make the stupidest mistake of thinking that TN BJP and DMK are 'fighting'. They are *giving importance* to TN BJP, and thus raising its status. Lavanya was murdered by the tamil criminals in TN BJP to make a big ghost of 'conversion' from which the gavunda dogs can save TN/hinduism, and become heroes. This is a criminal group. They probably/possibly murdered JJ and Swathi. Can't rule that out. But can't say, without evidence. Problem is...within TN, politics/media/police/judiciary is controlled by vellala mafia. They are requesting for CBI evidence in conversion suicide. I never had even a mediocre opinion about Indian intelligence. This is a political stunt by the gavundans.

பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா தமிழ்நாட்டோட இந்த புது இந்துக்கள் 'நம்ம பக்கம்' னு நினைக்கும் மாபெரும் தவறை பண்ணாதீங்க பாப்பார முட்டா கூதிகளா. I say it all the time. More shocking than the hate and malice of tamils and nagarathar-vellalar (dravidian) movement, is the stupor, and stupidity of the Brahmtards. You need not know, but you can at least keep your fucking stupid mouth shut, right?

பெரிய பூலு மாதிரி ங்கோத்தா ஆட்டினு வர வேண்டியது, 'இந்து மதம்'னுட்டு. மொதல்ல உங்க குண்டிய கழுவிக்கோங்க டா டேய். இது எந்த மாதிரியான ஊரு, எந்த மாதிரியான இனம், எந்த மாதிரியான சமூகம், இந்த இனம் உனக்கு நூறுவருஷமா என்ன செஞ்சுட்டு வருது, இப்போ என்ன செயுது...ஒரு மண்ணும் பாப்பார மட பசங்களுக்கு தெரியல, புரியல.

This is a game that tamil dogs are playing. They are fooling India, which never has any idea about tamil people and society. All that media coverage is planned by gavundan/chettian/mudalian from inside Congress. India doesn't just not know, but doesn't *care* about tamil society and politics. Its natural. The south itself is non-relatable to north indians. So, tamil criminals are making this uninterested, indifferent body as the adjudicator/judge for their case. The judge doesn't care. So, the criminal can try his own case, and escape. Now, you cannot catch them because they will say "oh, this case has already been dealt with. Church did everything".

No justice is possible inside tamil sphere, and all/most outsiders are indifferent and uninterested in tamil affairs. So, the tamil criminals get such an indifferent body/bodies to act as adjudicator for their case, so that they can get verdict in their favor and close the case.

Even if somebody does want to know what really happened in TN, could you explain it? Do you know how hard it is, even without the interference and game of the vellalas/tamils.

Brahmtards, don't take sides in this fight. You don't have a dog in this fight. We all need to survive, and succeed, I know. Having political clout is important, I agree. The political right is the most comfy space for Brahmins in TN right now, I agree. Its getting harder with palli/saanan/konan/gavundan there, I agree. So, play along, for space and dominance. Don't get caught in it. Play along, because you have to, but on the inside, know what's what.

Can I tell you a joke?

Tamil people, the race of the vilest and most hateful demons on earth, reported my 6th Twitter account for targeted harassment and abuse.

Like I've put elsewhere on this site, the problem is same as the problem of democracy itself. Majority rules. Numbers count. This is why chettiar+mudaliar+pillai+balija Naidu started worrying about social justice after election system began, in 1918.

Before that, they had no need for people's support. The people had to go to them, crawling and crouching.

Even though the franchise for elections was very limited until after independence, they could smell that that was the beginning of the end.

I can deal with this.

திராவிட எதிர்ப்பில் இருக்கும் சிக்கல்

கொஞ்ச நாள் முன்னாடி திருமாவளவன் போர்டு லாம் வெச்சு ஏதோ சொல்லிட்டு இருந்தாப்ல. வழக்கம் போல, நகரத்தார்-வெள்ளாளர் (திராவிட) இயக்கத்திடம் நாம் என்ன எதிர்பார்ப்போமோ அதை மெய்ப்பிக்கும் வகையில் அபத்தமா என்னத்தையோ பேசிட்டு இருந்தான். ஆனா கொஞ்சம் படிப்பாளி மாதிரி, கண்ணாடி போட்டுக்கிட்டு, போர்டு ல எழுதிக்கிட்டு...

இப்போ 1-2 நாள் முன்பு திருமுருகன் காந்தி. அதே மாதிரி போர்டு வெச்சு ஈழபோர் பற்றி வகுப்பு எடுக்கிறான்.

நீங்க பாத்தீங்கன்னா...பாஜக சில நாள் முன்பு வேல் யாத்திரை பண்ணான். .வேல் யாத்திரை : 'முன் வைத்த காலை பின் வைக்க மாட்டோம்' - தமிழக பா.ஜ.க பிடிவாதம்!

செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை (திராவிட) இயக்கம் அதை கலாய்ச்சான். ஆனா கொஞ்ச நாள் கழித்து தானும் அதே மாதிரி ஒரு வேல் யாத்திரை பண்ணான். Stalin’s flaunting of ‘Vel’ act of deceit: EPS

மாரிதாஸை போர்டு தாஸ் என்று கிண்டல் அடித்தான். இப்போ தானும் அதே மாதிரி போர்டு வெச்சு பாடம் எடுக்கிறான்.

தன் எதிரியை எதையெல்லாம் சொல்லி ஏளனம்/கிண்டல் செய்கிறானோ, அதையெல்லாம் தானும் செய்றான் பாருங்க. கேட்டா "இது தேர்தல்/அரசியல் யுத்திங்க. அவன் ஒன்னு பன்றான் நா மக்களுக்கு அது புடிக்குது, அது தேவை னு அர்த்தம். அப்போ நாங்களும் அதை பண்றது தப்பு இல்ல"நுடுவான். அவன் எல்லாத்துக்கும் ஒரு பதில் வெச்சிருப்பான். 

இதில் மட்டும் இல்ல...பொதுவாகவே, நீங்க இதை தமிழ் இனத்தின் ஒரு characteristic ஆக எடுத்துக்கலாம். தமிழு எதையெல்லாம் எதிர்க்குதோ, அதை எல்லாம் அந்த பக்கம் ஒரு சொட்டு விடாம நக்கி தின்னும். தமிழு ஒண்ணுத்தை எதிர்க்குதுன்னா, அடுத்து அதை எடுத்து தின்ன போகுதுன்னு அர்த்தம்.

நூறு வருஷம் முன்னாடி செட்டியான்-மொதலியான்-பிள்ள திராவிட இயக்கத்தையும், 'பெரியார்' என்ற ஒரு மாபெரும் பிம்பத்தை கட்டமைதான்(larger-than-life personality cult). இரண்டையும் கட்டமைத்து பார்ப்பனீய, சம்ஸ்கிருத மொழி/கலாச்சார எதிர்ப்பு பண்ணான்.

செட்டியான்-மொதலியான்-பிள்ள இயக்கம் தொடங்கியதிலிருந்து...பார்பனீயமயமாக்கம்  (sanskritization) அதிகரிச்சிருக்கா, குறைஞ்சிருக்கா? கேள்வியே இல்ல.

இந்த போர்டு/வேல் விஷயம் னு இல்ல, நீங்க இதை தமிழின் characteristic ஆக எடுத்துக்கலாம். தமிழு ஏதோ ஒண்ணுத எதிர்க்குதுன்னா, அடுத்து அதை எடுத்து தின்ன போகுதுன்னு அர்த்தம். I have an idea why, but I don't want to go into it here.

ஆனா என் கவலை இது இல்ல.

என் கவலை என்னன்னா... துர்கா ஸ்டாலின் ஏன் முழு பத்திரிகை வெளிச்சத்தில் கோயிலுக்கு போனாங்க?

அதாவது "நாங்கள் இந்துக்களுக்கு எதிரானவர்கள் அல்ல" னு மக்களுக்கு சொல்ல. இந்து விரோதின்றா மாதிரி பேரு வந்துட்டா வோட்டு வராம போய்டுமே என்ற பயம்.

செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை (திராவிட) இயக்கத்தை 

1. தமிழுக்கு (மொழி/இனம்/பண்பாடு) எதிரானவர்களாக 

2. இந்து மதத்துக்கு எதிரானவர்களாக 

சொல்லி எதிர்க்கும் வழக்கம் உண்டு. வழக்கமா இந்து விரோதி னு பார்ப்பனர்களும், தமிழுக்கு விரோதின்னு செ-மு-பி க்கு  கீழே இருக்கும் குழுக்களும் எதிர்ப்பார்கள். இன்று வன்னியர், நாடார், கோனார் கவுண்டர் போன்ற ஆட்களும் அவர்களை இந்து விரோதி னு சொல்லி, தங்களை பார்ப்பனர்கள் மாதிரி காட்டிக்கும் முயற்சி தான்.

என் கவலை என்னவென்றால். மரிதாஸ் மாதிரியே போர்டு வெக்கிறா மாதிரி...திடீரென்று ஒரு நாள் அந்த திராவிட மாய உலகத்தையும் பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பையும் ஓசைப்படாமல் கைவிட்டுவிட்டால்...இங்கே ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு என்ன நடந்தது, யார் நிகழ்த்தியது என்று..வெளி உலகத்துக்கு இருக்கட்டும், பாப்பார மட பசங்களுக்கே தெரியாமல் போய்டும்.

"நம்மை தமிழுக்கு விரோதி என்கிறார்கள். அதனால் நாம் இனி 'திராவிடம்' னு சொல்ல கூடாது. ஆரியத்துக்கு எதிர்சொல் னு தான் சொல்லிட்டிருக்கோம், இனிமே அதுவும் வேண்டாம்."

"நம்மை இந்து விரோதி னு சொல்றான். அன்னைக்கு சமூக நீதி, சாதி ஒழிப்பு, பார்ப்பன எதிர்ப்பு தேவைப்பட்டது. நாம் செய்வது அத்தனையுமே மக்களுக்காக தான். அந்த மக்களே நம்மை எதிர்ததா...இனி நாம் இந்து மத/பார்ப்பன துவேஷம் செய்ய வேண்டாம்"

னு முடிவு பண்ணிட்டா? திடீர் னு ஒரு நாள் எல்லாத்தையும் dismantle பண்ணிட்டா? அப்போ ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு இங்கே ஒரு ஒட்டுமொத்த இனம்/சமூகத்தின் மூலையில் விதைக்கப்பட்ட வெறுப்பு, வன்மம், விஷம்...அதுக்கு யார் பதில் சொல்வது?

தமிழ்நாட்டில் நடந்து வரும் ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு மனித வரலாற்றிலேயே நிகர் இல்லாதது. வன்முறை இல்லா வெறுப்பில் தமிழ் இனம் ஒரு சாதனை படைத்துள்ளது. நீ பாட்டுக்கு அசால்ட்டா "இனி இது தேவை இல்லை" னு கழட்டி வெச்சுட்டா? நடந்ததுக்கு  எவன் பதில் சொல்லுவான்?

அந்த கழட்டி வைப்பது எப்படி நடக்கும்னா...உள்ளே இருப்பவர்களுக்கும் வெளியே இருப்பவர்களுக்கும் இடையில் கூட்டு சதி. செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை உருவாக்கிய திராவிடத்தை, பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பை தாங்கி பிடித்து..திராவிடத்தை வளர்த்து, திராவிடத்தால் வளர்ந்த பள்ளி, சாணான், கோனான், கவுண்டன் இன்னைக்கு என்ன பன்றான் பாருங்க. திராவிடம் தமிழ் விரோதி (நா.த.க), திராவிடம் இந்து மத விரோதீன்றான் (த.நா. பா.ஜ.க).

அப்படி அழுத்தம் குடுத்த என்ன பன்றான்? செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை (திராவிட) இயக்கம் இத்துணை நாள் சொல்லி/செய்து வந்ததை நிறுத்த செய்றான்.

'இது நல்லது தானே, பார்ப்பன/மத துவேஷம் நின்னா நல்லது தானே'னு யோசிக்க கூடாது.

அந்த மாயை எவ்ளோ நாள் தான் ஓடும்? நூறு வருஷம் என்பது ஒரு இயக்கத்துக்கு ரொம்ப ரொம்ப பெருசு. இது இயக்கத்துக்கு பெருமையா, அந்த இனத்துக்கு அசிங்கமா, தெரியல, ஆனா...நூறு வருஷம் என்பது ரொம்ப பெருசு.

So...நூறு வருஷம் நல்லா ஆசை தீர வெறுப்பு, விஷம், வன்மத்தை கொட்டி, கக்கி தீர்த்துட்டு, அதை தானே ஏறக்கட்டுறான். திராவிட எதிர்ப்பு திராவிடத்தை விட பெரிய மோசடி. திராவிடத்துக்கு இருக்கும் எதிர்ப்பு திராவிடமே ஏற்பாடு செய்துகொண்டது. செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை இயக்கத்துக்கு வன்னியர்-நாடார்-கோனார்-கவுண்டர் தரும் எதிர்ப்பு முழுவதுமே நாடகம் னு சொல்ல வரல. ஆனா இவர்களுக்குள் இருக்கும் உரசல் 'இடத்துக்கானது. Dominance. Lebensraum (living space), not an ideological fight. If you think about it, the purpose of ideologies is to make that fight for dominance/space more effective.

இவர்களுக்குள் பகை இருக்கு. அது இடத்துக்காக. ஆனா இவர்கள் இருவரும் சேர்ந்தது தான் திராவிடம். பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பில் இருவருக்கும் பங்கு உண்டு. செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை உருவாக்கிய பார்ப்பான் வெறுப்பு விஷத்தை தாங்கி பிடித்தது பள்ளி,சாணான்,கோனான். அதை வளர்த்தான், அதை ஆதரித்தான். செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளையிடம் தோன்றிய அந்த பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு நூறு வருஷம் தமிழ் இனத்தில் வாழ்ந்ததுக்கு காரணம் - வன்னியர், நாடார், கோனார், கவுண்டர், உடையார், கள்ளர், மறவர், அகமுடையார் அதை அங்கீகரித்தது.

இத்தனை நாள் திராவிடத்தின் உள் இருந்த கூட்டம் இன்று திராவிடத்துக்கு வெளிய பொய் அதை நிறுத்த சொல்வது - திராவிடமே தனக்காக ஏற்பாடு செய்துகொண்ட endgame. A silent and neat exit. என்ன நடந்தது, என்னவெல்லாம் நடந்தது, யார் நடத்தியது, ஒண்ணுமே வெளிய வராமல் அப்படியே புதைக்க.

Dravidian Movement and Brahmin hate of TN happened within a certain 'frame'. If that 'frame' changes, or is discarded, there is no point answering to the frame, or dissecting/discussing it. It is IMPOSSIBLE to recreate the frame. It has to be captured while it is alive. Keeping that 'frame' alive is absolutely imperative to tell the world what the demoniac tamil race has been doing, and to give its judgement. And, if you didn't notice, efforts are underway to dump that 'frame'. BJP/NTK is simply trying to make it stop. Many brahmins too are of the same opinion.

Of what use is it if it stops today, or goes on for another 30 years? The worst is already over. The worst is already happening. Wanting to make it stop shouldn't be the objective, and we shouldn't collect dissidents of Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai movement. We have to catch non-tamils, and the vellalas have already taken great strides in befuddling outsiders. Every time they do that, it becomes more and more harder for you to reach non-tamils. Malice works sleeplessly. Brahmins are fast asleep.

என் கவலை...திராவிடம் தானா ரெண்டா பிரிஞ்சு தான் செய்த குற்றங்களுக்கு தனக்கு தானே தீர்ப்பு சொல்லி, ஏதோ குறைந்த பட்ச தண்டனை வழங்கி caseஐ இழுத்து மூடிட்டா? 

I Have Been Banned on Tamilbrahmins.com

 Lol😂😃

The Brahmins of Tamil Country are not an especially bright lot. Besides, they are surrounded by a non-human, demoniac hate and malice, and they are blissfully unaware of it. They do not know what kind of hate has been working against them.

Reading some thread like this பரமக்குடி முதல் பாடசாலை வரை about the Cheran Mahadevi gurukulam incident just makes my heart heavy like nothing else. The replies by the account named 'nara'. This could very well be a vellala, or a balija naidu too. Just look at the arguments. Periyar, and Perumal Varadarajulu Naidu were Balija Naidus.

• Just 2 students requesting interdining is a weak excuse it seems. He says VVS Iyer wanted to harbor caste divisions, deep in his heart.
• Gurukul was built with money of non-brahmins.

Ok. Why did the balija nai say that the cooks have to be brahmin? Because, in those days, the upper caste dogs of tamil country got Brahmins to cook for them to protect semblance of their own 'purity'. Even the vellala dog VOC Pillai requested for a Brahmin cook while he was in jail. Wasn't this casteist?

If "only 2 students" argument is irrelevant, interdining happened in no other places in TN too! If they really cared, why didn't they oppose these practices in all those places? Of course, theirs is a hate without purpose, without end. They will say "the segregation in all other places derives inspiration from here".

If non-brahmins funded it, didn't they know what it was going to be on the inside? The Nattukottai Chettiar dogs funded the gurukul, and they are also the key creators one hundred years of demoniac hate against Brahmins. They have literally been knocking tamils' doors, waking them up, and feeding them vitriol of Brahmin hate. They have been putting up stages, and talking about brahmins, and feeding hate. They have been doing this non-stop for one hundred years. Tamil Nadu is unlike any other place in the whole world. Tamils in general, and Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai in particular, is unique in the whole world. The most hateful, malicious, and vindictive demons on earth.

Yes it was non-brahmins who funded the gurukul. So, would they not have known about the practises inside? It was the same as the practice elsewhere, in the society. Why did Periyar & co target only that gurukul? Because the issue itself is irrelevant. They had, and do have a seething hate against Brahmins. They could have made an issue out of anything. But look at 'Nara's arguments, that too on Tamilbrahmins.com!!!

I believe Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai is at work in TB.com too.

Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Narratives About All-Caste-Priesthood #1

I keep telling Brahmtards of tamil country not to blindly defend agama, tradition, temple, hinduism. That doesn't mean I'm asking them to throw all that out. That just means that I'm saying as long as you think and see only through those lenses, you will miss out 99% of the ground realities and malice of nagarathar-vellalar (Dravidian) movement. And to think that this is but one small chapter in the 100 + years of brahmin hate that chettiar + mudaliar + pillai have built in tamil country, which rages till today.

Kindly read this post - > A Primer on the Anaithu Sadhiyinarum Archagar (All-Caste Priesthood) Issue of Dravidian Movement for the full story.

Watch this clip. This is a very small example of the hate and venom directed against Brahmins in context of temple priesthood.

The people who say "but tamils are deeply devoted hindus" or "tamils have great respect for brahmins" are either trying to mask the full pumpkin in a small mound of rice, or blind as hell.

Who denied entry to lower castes into temples?

She/they say Brahmins did it.

Truth was that the dominant/elite groups did it. Justice Party came to power in 1921. Periyar's Self Respect Movt came in 1925/26, but temple entry of nadars and dalits happened only in 1939.

Who wrote the agamas/shastras?

She says Brahmins wrote it themselves. Might be true of the agamas and scriptures of India, but not true in Tamil Country. The tamil, and the vellala/chettiar are unique territory. We cannot understand this from ordinary human, or Indian standpoint. These are demons. This is non-human malice.

The agamas of tamil country were written by the vellalas. They are a fork between indigenous tamil, and Indian/sanskriti texts. That's what the Brahmtards like Subramoron Swamy and Rangaraj Pandey fail to see. Kudaneeratru is a completely tamil tradition. The nagarathar-vellala dogs themselves sanskritized it to 'kumbabhishegam', and poured hate on the Brahmins for ruining their culture. This kudamuzhukku is supposed to have sanction of agamas. How's that possible?

The vellalas say agamas say that Brahmins cannot enter their temples/mutts. How is this possible if Brahmins wrote the agamas?

Tamil is the only area where "an idol is defiled if it is touched by somebody other than the person prescribed by the agama". This is an actual thing. This is the reason why Namboodiris lost the Adhithya (supra) case. There was no malice there. A world of malice exists in tamil country. I don't know how the legal and political geniuses didn't check this line. In the rest of the country, anybody can touch the idol. But not so in tamil temples. How? Why?

The agamas of the tamil/vellala/nagarathar dogs are unique. They are not the same as the agamas of the rest of the country. But see how those same nagarathar-vellalar dogs put the blame of agamas on Brahmins, and see how those Brahmtards defend those agamas too, without even knowing what it means.

Next clip.

1. She says HRCE was formed by Justice Party to safeguard the temples and mutts from Brahmins, as they used to eat away all the properties.

That's wrong. Since 1863, the trustee is in-charge of all affairs of religious/charitable endowments, and none of the trustees are Brahmins. The Dikshitars are nominal trustees of Chidambaram temple and they don't have rights over fund management.

The HRCE laws and the all-caste priesthood laws too, were created to *CREATE THIS ILLUSION*. That tamils needed to be saved from the Brahmins. They served only to vilify the Brahmins and enable hate and such accusations against them.

2. She says DMK fought against the HRCE Act of 1959 which strengthened the 'customs, codes and conventions', i.e., by their narrative, Brahmin priesthood and their hold on temples.

But then, in 1959, Periyar was supporting TN Congress, which brought that law. Why didn't Periyar try to stop this then? Did he voice out? Were the Chettiar/Mudaliar/Pillai/Reddiar in TN Congress unyielding to Periyar at that time?

Why are the Chettiar/Mudaliar/Pillai in DMK supporting it now? What's going on? 1970 was the time when DMK changed hands from these upper shudras to the lower shudras. Those were represented by Karunanidhi, who brought this change. Did the upper shudras resist it for as long as they could, but quickly jumped over *after the change was brought* and spoke non-stop in its favor, afterwards, and praising Karunanidhi, *after he brought it*? Yes, that's the truth. They resisted it for as long as they could. Then, when it was achieved by the lower groups, they touted it as the success of the Dravidian Movement, and named the resistance of so long as 'Brahmanical force'. They are themselves that Brahmanical force. The lower castes don't bother correcting because there is nothing in it for them.

Also, Karunanidhi's 1970 amendment only tried to attack hereditary appointments. The trustee was the final authority for all temple matters. DMK did not even have to bring a law. They just needed to ask the trustees. The trustees also happened to be Chettiar-Mudaliar-Nayakar.

But, attacking hereditary appointments ≠ attacking Brahmin priesthood, but thats what they have been saying.

Why is there a huge mismatch between what they profess they want to achieve, and what they actually do in order to achieve. If you want to do away with Brahmin priests, you must simply tell the trustee chettiar-mudaliar, or clarify about the agamas, or legislate clearer, forceful laws.

They will say "In that time, Brahminism was very strong. We could not attack it. We have attacked Brahminism for long, so it has finally been weakened only today."

This is like saying "the crocodile was so strong for 50 yrs. It's a 2000 yr old crocodile. The man won over the crocodile only today."

They are on both sides. Agama and Dravidian Movement. They are not winning over Brahminism. They are loosening their own rules. Probably because they need more popular support. This means that another band of the centuries old privilege of the tamil elites has dried up and they are this desperate.

If an non-tamil brought a law, it would have been more clearer. DMK's 1970 amendment was a sham, publicity for the 1971 assembly elections. They never meant to remove Brahmin priesthood. It was just for spiting Brahmins. 

3. She gives out an important piece of detail. The group that had filed the 1971 Seshammal case against DMK's 1970 amendment was comprised of 2 mutt heads, and 10 archakars (priests).

 I didn't know this, but had roughly guessed it. Thanks #drav for making my eyes and ears and brain sharper.

The Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement had been saying for 50 years that Brahmin fellows filed a case against DMK. Turns out its not exactly that way. 'Mutt heads and archakars' doesn't necessarily need to be Brahmins. In fact, my guess is that they were all saiva vellalas. But if some retards like Subramanian Swamy puts his head inside deliberately, fapping to 'hindu dharma/religion/tradition', etc, I don't know what to say.

That's why I emphasize on the wordings of DMK's amendments, to show that didn't have intent at all.

4. The court's judgement in 1972 Seshammal was that doing away with hereditary appointments was alright, but that new appointments must not violate agamas.

Same point as above. Attacking hereditary appointments ≠ attacking Brahmin priesthood. Didn't you know this even in 1970? Brahmin priesthood is not restricted or hindered by abolition of hereditary principle. This is evident even to a 10th standard guy.

DMK's 2006 amendment is the same story, and in that case too, it was not Brahmins who filed cases in court. 'Adi Saiva Sivachariar Nala Sangam' did it, and they are not Brahmins.

The problem is that neither the folks in those courts, nor the Brahmtards of tamil country know and see the narrative that Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Movement built on the ground. This is purely an exercise for Brahmin hate and political mileage. And in tamil country, that political mileage is not different from the Brahmin hate. It is the political mileage that is gained from Brahmin hate. Yes, that is the intensity of Brahmin hate of tamil country.

Final point. Those 'Brahmins' inside the tamil temples that they have been talking about for a century, they are not 'Brahmins' at all, right from the beginning. They belong to a sect called 'Adi Saiva Sivachariar', and ASS are not Brahmins! They are saiva vellalas!

And those demons are the key source of the 100 yr old Brahmin hate in tamil country. This whole exercise was useless, but what is that 'exercise', in the eyes of the court?

The court probably only saw two parties fight against each other. One, wanting to make some changes to temples, and the other, defending the temples from it. The court probably saw the trustees and conservative, casteist devotees as defending themselves from the attack of the Dravidian Movement. Even Brahmtards see it that way. But in truth, they are both the same group. They are like Sathyavel Murugan and Pillai Rajavel, who claims to oppose this.

The court doesn't see the full picture because the court doesn't see and understand the narrative on the ground. Dravidian Movement took the case to court just in order to add legitimacy to its narrative on the ground. They used the court as a character in their play, to tell the people "See, we went to the court, fought so hard, and then won".

Very Nice Mr. RCI

 

I won't be the fool ruining the convos you groom because you are the fool. I knew for long that this was a 'Breaking India'tard. (Check out my small attempt at dismantling Rajiv Malhotra here-> https://thethiravidiantruth.blogspot.com/2021/08/moron-smriti-of-rajiv-malhotra-should.html?m=1).

Do you know what's the sign of a mediocre/inferior mind?

It somehow arrives at some own or borrowed conclusions, and then refuses to change. In the face of counter arguments and proofs, it uses those proofs/args *to simply re-arrive at its existing conclusions*. An inability to see and absorb new things, and to fit them into your existing worldview.

I used to say many times that real anti-hindu, non-hindu breaking india forces do exist, but that they are not the causative agent of Dravidian movement, not it's momentum-giver. If you don't understand Dravidian movement, you won't understand those real Breaking-India forces as well.

I don't know know if Rajiv Malhotra was compromised to begin with, whether he was approached by vellala mafia to come with such a cover-up. Looking at his closeness with Nithyananda Pillai, I'm strongly inclined to think that's the case. I don't know if it's that or he's just the original fool. He doesn't even know tamil, for god's sake.

Opposing for the wrong reason = Supporting

Supporting for the wrong reason = Opposing

Opposing Dravidian Movement saying it's anti hindu = Supporting

Opposing all-caste priesthood because it is against agamas or religion or Brahmins = Supporting

Dravidian movement is simple. It was commissioned by the British and it started out as a force to quell the already weak freedom struggle of Brahmins in Congress.

Brahmin hate was already festering within vellala/Chettiar/balija quarters for a couple of decades so they gladly complied.

To understand their games, you have to understand nagarathar-vellalar mindset. That is the Dravidian mindset and worldview. That is what makes 'politics', which happens everywhere, into 'dravidian politics'. A thin layer. The other castes play along because it is a big legacy, and because it doesn't harm their power/benefit equation in any way.

Except for Brahmins of Tamil Country, nobody has the need or incentive to oppose Dravidian movement fully.

The anti-hindu trick of Chettiar-mudaliar-pillai (Dravidian) movement is ...

They are fully into this 'caste annihilation/equality' mode. So they supposedly oppose Hinduism inasmuch as it causes casteism and inequality. But how did they conclude that casteism sprung out of Hinduism? Neither Hinduism nor casteism exist independent of us. We are all Hindus. We are all caste system. It's not an external thing. But they externalize it. Why do you not attack that base? Thats where the game is. Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai 

They equate Hinduism with brahminism with caste system. They say we are casteist because we are Hindus and that that Hinduism or casteism is just simply that of the Brahmins.

So, that opposition to Hinduism is a non-issue. They equate Hinduism with caste system/varnashrama with brahminism, and oppose it. It's basically just a defiance of brahmin superiority. But by constantly opposing it, they actually reinforce it, and that's the game too. They need brahminism, but on their terms. This is the key. And if we have any sense of shame, we refuse, not patch up, like you have been trying to do. The equation of Tamils/nagarathar-vellalar  with Brahmins is never going to be the same ever again. They have spewed non-human levels of hate and malice for a hundred years and they have to reap what they sowed.

They need brahminism but brahmin hate as well. This is the Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) psychology. Brahminism was the substrate of many centuries. It was always there, even during the last 100 yrs. ஆத்திகவாதி.

The Brahmin hate part of #drav side, நாத்திகவாதி, was a development in last century. This side emerged to spew the hate of the other devout Hindu Chettiar/mudaliar/Pillai. ஆத்திகவாதி வெளிப்படுத்த முடியாத வெறுப்பை கருப்பு சட்டை போட்டுக்கிட்டு நாத்திகம் பேசுற மாதிரி உமிழ்வான். உண்மையில் அந்த குழு கடுவுளுக்கு, இந்து மதத்துக்கு, ஏன் பார்ப்பனர்களுக்குமே கூட எதிரானவன் இல்ல. அந்த பக்கம் தங்க ஆட்கள் தின்று கொண்டிருக்கும் பார்ப்பனீயத்தை தட்டி விட மாட்டான்‌. அந்த பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பை மட்டும் கொட்டி தீர்த்துப்பான், தமிழர்களை கொட்டி தீர்க்க வைத்தான்.

It's a non-issue. The reason why they keep saying "there is no hinduism/india" is...they want that 'hinduism'...all of it, but without the label alone. They have been imbibing it. The names of the aadhenams begin with "Thiru kailaya parambarai...". What's the problem with the label?

If they accept the 'hindu' label, they have to accept the superiority of Brahmins. Thats the sole problem. (Saivam/vainavam of the vellala soothra kuttis) minus (Hinduism) = (acceptance of brahmin superiority).

They had been ok with it for centuries. Why suddenly some problem? 

The were ok with it as long as they had great privilege in tamil society. The supposed superiority of Brahmins didn't prick their eyes. But once they began losing privilege, which belonged to the feudal/agricultural times, the supposed superiority of Brahmins began to prick their eyes. 

You need to understand vellala mindset. Chettiars can be seen as part of vellala subculture. Same attitudes.

When they say "we don't want Hinduism", they mean they want everything without the name because that would mean they accept superiority of Brahmins.

Saying "Hinduism is a colonial creation" is not to uproot from Hinduism and plant in Christianity, but to keep all that is in Hinduism without losing a drop, but becoming the topmost social group, using the local martial groups as validators. Maravar/kallar/udayar/agamudayar/goundar etc. That is not guaranteed, but that will definitely be a step towards legitimising vellala supremacy.

And neither is Stalin a vellala not are priests in tamil temples Brahmins. The vellala name for Thevar adiya caste was like some people calling fish as கடல் வாழக்காய் (sea banana). It's not an actual vellala. And the existing priests in tamil temples who are thought to be Brahmins are actually Saiva vellala sootha kuttis. Read my primer.

The existing priests are already Vellalas only but it doesn't contribute to vellala supremacy. They need to wear the cloak of 'brahmin' to get the prestige and it's not prestige for vellala tag. Saying "we are not hindus, we are Saiva/vainavam" is a wish for that. Who do you think will be the top social group in those sects? Them.

The LTTE never probably demanded for a separate state. Of what use what a separate state to them? The demand for eelam came from the Jaffna Vellalas. Vaddukoddai Resolution. Do you know why they asked this?

The Social Disabilities Act of SL govt limited vellala casteism. They wanted to have a free hand in oppressing the lower castes. Thats why they spoke and speak about federalism and secession. 

TN nagarathar+vellalar spoke about caste eradication for a hundred years. But their whole worldview of caste eradication was just brahmin Hate. In truth, they are the most casteist of all. Factually, literally. They created no social justice. That happened by itself. They only cooked up an imagined social injustice and have been at it for a century.

The reason why they speak of regionalism/federalism and discarding 'hindu' identity is because the umbrella socio-political-religious identities empower the lower groups. This is their angst towards 'corporate' too. Modernism, corporate, unified entities are great levelers. Vellala supremacy needs local validators. They want a free hand in suppressing social mobility of lower groups. They have probably figured out a way to maneuver the dominant non-elite feudal groups, the kanganis.

The following are excerpts from Susan Bayly's book 'Saints, Goddesses and Kings...'.

The keyword here is "reallocate tokens of rank and precedence..."

Understand the vellala mindset. Without doing that, you won't understand Dravidian movt/propaganda.

The Sinhala Word for 'Religion' is...

 AGAMA???!!!

What the FUCK!!

Phew! Gotta dig into this now.

இந்து நேசன் என்ற பிராமண ஏடா?

என்ன டா புது உருட்டா இருக்கு? 50களில் வந்த மஞ்ச பத்திரிகை தானே இந்து நேசன்? இல்லையா? 1910களில் "ஹிந்து நேஷன்" என்ற பிரமன் ஏடு நிஜமா வந்ததா? அதுவாவது நிஜமாக பார்ப்பனர்களால் நடத்தப்பட்டதா இல்லை தினமலர் மாதிரி பாப்பார ஏடு னு எல்லாரையும் நம்ப வெச்சு உள்ள வெள்ளாளன் உக்காந்துக்குட்டு இருந்தானா?

2021ல் தமிழ்நாட்டு அரசியலில் கவுண்டன்

'முக்குலத்தோர்' என்ற வார்த்தை கேள்வி பட்டிருப்பீங்க. 'தேவர்' என்பது இன்னொரு பெயர், அல்லது பட்டம். அது ஒரு சாதி இல்லை. மூன்று சாதி. கள்ளர், மறவர் அகமுடையார். 'Endogamous groups' என்று சொல்லப்படும், தங்களுக்குள் மண உறவுகள் இல்லாத தனித்தனி குழுக்கள்.

அதிலும் அகமுடையார் கள்ளர் மரவரை சற்று கீழாக பார்க்கும் போக்கு உண்டு என்று கேள்வி. இன்னும் சொல்ல போனால், அகமுடையார்கள் "நாங்கள் முக்குலத்தோர் கிடையாது, அதை நாங்கள் ஏற்க மாட்டோம், கள்ளர் மறவர் தான் சொல்லிக்கொண்டு சுத்துகிறார்கள்" னு கூட சொல்லுவாங்க.

தமிழ்நாட்டு அரசியலில் நெடு காலங்களுக்கு கள்ளர் மறவர் அதிமுக ஆதரவு, அகமுடையார் திமுக ஆதரவு. அதாவது, அந்த குழு மொத்தமாக அந்தந்த கட்சியில் இருக்கும் னு சொல்லல. அது எப்பொழுதும் அப்படி கிடையாது. அனால், இது தான் நிதர்சனம். திமுக அதிமுக உரசல்களுக்கு காரணம் - வன்னியர்களுக்கும் முதலியார்களுக்கும் மற்றும் இந்த அகம் உடையார்களுக்கும் கள்ளர்-மறவர்களுக்கும் இடையில் இருந்த சாதி பகை. அந்த சாதி பகை தான் அரசியல் பகை ஆனது, ஆகிறது . இதில் செட்டியார்/முதலியார்/பிள்ளை தங்கள் பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பை சந்துல பந்து போட்டாப்ல தான் இறக்கி கொண்டிருந்தார்கள்.

அதிமுக வில் கள்ளர் மறவர் ஆதிக்கம் தான் நெடு நாட்களுக்கு இருந்தது. கள்ளர் என்ற பெயரில் நாட்டுக்கோட்டை நகரத்தார் ஈடுபாடு எந்த அளவு இருந்ததென்று எனக்கு தெரியல. கள்ளருக்கும் நகரத்தாருக்குமான உறவை மிகவும் நெருக்கமானது என்று நான் படித்திருக்கிறேன். கள்ளனுக்கு ஏது இவ்வளவு அறிவு, இவ்வளவு criminal mind?

இது வரை கவுண்டனை தவிர மற்றவர்களை பேசியதும் காரணம்- கவுண்டன் செய்ததை சற்று புரியும்படி சொல்ல.

அதிமுக வில் கள்ளர்-மறவர் கூட்டணி இருந்தது. ஆனால் ஜெயலலிதா இறந்த பிறகு (அது தானா, இயற்கையாகவோ இல்ல வேற எதுவோ) இந்த கூட்டணியில் உறசல்கள் வர ஆரம்பித்தது. சசிகலாவை போன்ற கள்ளர்கள் எப்பவும் பின்னாடி தான் வைக்கப்பட்டார்கள். மறவரான பன்னீர்செல்வம் தான் முதலமைச்சராக லாம் ஆனார். ஆனால் ஜெயலலிதா இறந்த பின் இந்த விரிசல் பெரிதானது.

பண்ணீர்செல்வம் செய்த "தர்மயுத்தம்" என்னது?

பதிவிலிருந்து வெளியேறி, "அந்த குடும்பத்தை வெளியேற்று, அப்ப தான் நாங்க உள்ள வருவோம். அந்த குடும்பத்துக்கும் கட்சிக்கும் தொடர்பு இருக்க கூடாது" என்று பண்ணீர்செல்வம் சொன்னார்.

அதாவது...என்ன நடக்கிறது? கள்ளர்-மறவர் கூட்டணி கிட்ட கவுண்டன் சொல்லியிருக்கான். "டேய் கள்ளர்-மறவர். ரொம்ப நாள் ஆடியாச்சு. இனியும் இது நடக்காது."

அதனால், கவுண்டன் கூட சேர்ந்த மறவன் கள்ளனை வெளியேற்றியிருக்கிறான். அது தான் 'தர்மயுத்தம்'. மறவனுக்கு வேற வழி இல்லை. அந்த இந்திய வரலாற்றிலேயே அது வரை நடக்காத அளவில் பெரிதாக நடந்த Income Tax Raid எதுக்காக? In One Of Biggest Tax Recoveries, 170 Crore Seized In Tamil Nadu Raids

மத்திய பாஜக அரசின் உதவியுடன் இந்த கள்ளர்களுடைய பாம்பு பொந்துக்குள் கைய விட்டு உள்ள இருக்கும் பணத்தை பூரா ஆட்டைய போட்டு பாம்பின் பல்லை உருவியிருக்கிறார்கள். 

இது அதிமுக. கள்ளர்-மறவர் கூட்டணி உள்ள புகுந்து தர்மம் யுத்தம் செய்ய வெச்சு கள்ளனை அடிச்சு விரட்டிட்டான். அப்புறம். ரஜினிகாந்த் பல நாலா அரசியலுக்கு வருவேன் னு தண்ணி காமிச்சுட்டு இருந்தான். போன வாட்டியும் கூட தான். இந்த முறை ஒரு வழியா வந்துடுவான் னு பாத்தா...அர்ஜுனன் மூர்த்தி னு ஒரு கவுண்டன் உள்ள போனான், அவன் போய் கொஞ்ச நாள் ல ரஸுன்னி அரசியல் லிருந்து ஒட்டுமொத்தமா விலகிக்கிறேன் நுட்டான.

அந்த பீசு ஆரம்பத்திலிருந்தே டம்மி தான். மருதூர் கோபாலன் ராமசந்திரன் என்ற மலையாள முட்டா கூ வையும் இயக்கியது (திரைப்படம்+அரசியலில்) இதே செட்டியார், முதலியார் கூட்டம் தான்.

கவுண்டன் யோசித்திருப்பான், "இப்ப நாம அதிமுக விலும் கெத்து. திமுக விலும் கெத்து. சுப்புலட்சுமி செகதீசன் தான் துணை பொதுசெயலாளச்சி. அண்பழக முதலியான்  படுத்த படுக்க. இப்படி இருக்கையில்...ஏன் வாக்கை பாஜகவுக்கு வீணடிக்கணும்? என்ன பகை இருந்தாலும் நமக்குள்ள, திமுக, அதிமுக க்குள்ள வெச்சுக்கலாம்.

அதுக்காக தமிழ்நாட்டு வழக்கம்போல பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு நடக்கும், அது பாட்டுக்கு நடக்கட்டும்.

நம்ம பய அண்ணாமல இன்னும் பாஜக ல தயார் ஆகல. இப்படிக்கு  தமிழக பாஜக பல்லு புடுங்கிய பாம்பா இருக்கட்டும்"

அதன் பிறகு, பல ஆண்டுகள் முன்பே போட்டு வைத்த திட்டத்தின்படி இப்ப அண்ணாமல கவுண்டன் பாஜக தலைமைக்கு வந்துட்டான். வந்தவுடன் என்ன செய்றான் பாருங்க.

எப்படி மறவனை தர்மயுத்தம் செய்ய வைத்து கள்ளனை வெளியேற்றினானோ, அதே மாதிரி முதலியான் கூட சேர்ந்து பாஜக புள்ளிகளில் கேடுகெட்ட பாப்பானா தேடி கண்டுபிடிச்சு, பொம்பளைய வெச்சு மயக்கி பாஜக விலிருந்து பாப்பாய்ங்கள அப்புற படுத்த திட்டம். பொம்பள கேஸ் மிகவும் சக்தி வாய்ந்தது என்று இவங்களுக்கு சொல்லி தரணுமா என்ன? இது தான் முதல் படி.

அருமை டா கவுண்டைங்களா. இங்கே நடப்பது, இது வரை நடந்துகொண்டிருப்பதெல்லாம் தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு வெளியே யாருக்கும் தெரியாது, தெரிஞ்சுக்க அக்கறையும் இருக்காது...

Portrayal of Brahmins in Tamil Cinema

I think 40% of all movies ever made in 70 years of cinema made by the tamil demons show the heroine as a Brahmin, like this movie, Moovendhar. 

I also think that it was chettiar, mudaliar pillai who pimped out Brahmin women to MGR, Sivaji Rao Gaikwad (Rajnikanth), Bagyaraj, Editor Mohan and god knows how many others. ADMK was simply the party started by the Mudaliars who had been sidelined in their own party, DMK. Chettiar + Mudaliar started DMK. Chettiar + Mudaliar started ADMK too.

If ever a recounting or chronicle of the century old Brahmin hate in Tamil Country ever comes out, I believe 'Tamil Cinema' will be an important sub-genre itself. Its a vertical in itself. Same for print media, literature, novel, etc. Brahmin hate has permeated all spheres of tamils for a century.

Reporting Accounts on Social Media

My Quora account got banned recently. I had simply said somewhere that the one hundred years of brahmin hate in Tamil Nadu was created by

Nattukottai Nagarathar (Chettiar)

Saiva Vellalas (Pillai)

Mudaliar

And that this is the same group that constructed the Dravidian movement too. And that this is the most Hinduized Tamils. The most hinduest Tamils built Dravidian movement, so it's wrong to call it anti-hindu because if you do so, you automatically make good people of the remaining Hindu Tamils. But the fact is that the most hinduest of Tamils built Dravidian movement and brahmin hate.

No bad words, no abuse. But somebody reported, and I'm banned for repeated 'offence'. Who processes these reports? Are they routed back to locals?

I am aware of this process for long. I believe it's a small scale model of democracy itself. The voice of the majority. There is hate and malice in tamil country that is unique in the world. Anbazhagan Ambrose is himself married to a brahmin ho. Check out his content. This is a unique peoples. Leave alone India, even Karnataka and Andhra don't know tamils.

But they actively scout the web, and report whatever is against them. They have a bot army anyways, so they do not have to face this problem. They have an endless supply of #dravbots in the form of  8 crore tamil people.

To catch them, we need to first be aware of their entire scope of activities. But extremely sorry to say, brahmins of Tamil Nadu are fast asleep. I agree they are dealing with something unique that nobody else on earth has to deal with. But there is still a lot more you could do.

The more you delay, the harder and harder it becomes to bring out the truths. I don't think India cares about tamils and tamil people, and what is happening there. They make a big cry of Emergency, but life was mostly normal in Tamil Country during Indira's emergency. We are long by ourselves, and we are dealing with veritable demons. This is non-human levels of malice and hate. That of Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai, and we need to take this out of Tamil Country. We need eyeballs and ears. And, remember, chettiar+mudaliar+pillai will leave no stone unturned to see to it that their stories don't leave tamil country. See how the chettiar dog Karti Chidambaram talks like a congressman. His chettiar dogs built Dravidian Movement for the British in order to defeat the freedom struggle of the Congress.

Madan Ravichandran Mudaliar at Work

இந்த திராவிட இயக்கமே முதலியார்களால் தோற்றுவிக்கப்பட்டது என்று நமக்கு தெரியும். குறிப்பாக, துளுவ வெள்ளாள முதலியார்கள். அவர்கள் தான் விஸ்வநாத நாயக்கனை தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு நாயக்கனாக்கியது. அவர்கள் தான் வெள்ளைக்காரனுக்கு மொழி பெயர்ப்பு செய்யும் interpreterஆக செயல்பட்டது. அதன் காரணமாக தான் சுதந்திர போராட்டத்தை முறியடிக்க உதவ வெள்ளையர்கள் அவர்களை தேர்ந்தெடுத்தார்கள். அதை செய்ய அந்த துளுவ வெள்ளாள முதலியார்களும் நாட்டுக்கோட்டை செட்டியார் நாய்களம் வெள்ளாள + பலிஜ நாய்டுவும் கட்டமைத்தது தான் 'திராவிட இயக்கம்'.

அந்த சாதியை சேர்ந்த மதன் ரவிச்சந்திர மொதலியான் தமிழக பாஜகவிலிரிந்து பாப்பார முட்டா பயலுவள காலி பன்ன போட்ட திட்டம் பாருங்க. 

Update: The original video on Youtube was removed. I have uploaded this from another channel.

ஏன்டா...ஒரு ஆள் playboyஆக இருப்பது அவளோ பெரிய தப்பா? உன் மொதலியானும் வெள்ளாளன்களும் நாயக்கன்களும் நாட்டுக்கோட்டை நாய்களும் தேவுடியா ஜாதியை பல நூற்றாண்டுகளாக ஓத்து ஒழுக்காக பிராயச்சித்தமாக தானே டா அந்த தேவுடியா பிள்ளைகளை உங்க இயக்க தலைவனா வெச்சிருக்கீங்க. ராகவன் செய்தது தப்பு தான்‌. ஆனா அது அவன் தனிப்பட்ட வாழ்க்கை. அவன் அந்த ஃபிகரு முளைய காட்ட சொல்றான், பத்து பொம்ளைங்கள புண்டைய விரிச்சு காட்ட சொல்றான்...ங்கோத்தா அதபத்தி உங்களுக்கென்ன தேவுடியா பசங்களா. அவங்க விரும்பி தானே வர்றாங்க? ங்கோத்தா நீங்க பன்னாததா?

ஆனா இந்த செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை என்ன வெனா செய்யும். ஒரு பொம்பளையை அனுப்பி, துனியை கழட்டும் முன் yes சொல்லி, கழட்டி ஓக்க ஆரம்பிச்ச பிறகு no சொல்ல வெச்சு பொம்பள கேஸ் ஆக்கி விட்ருவானுவ. சொன்னா "அப்ப #metoo வும் இதேவா ஏன் இருக்க கூடாது"னு கேப்பாங்க‌.

Brahmtards of Tamil country have absolutely no idea what they are dealing with. 

அவன் sex life. அவன் ஒரு பொம்பளையை செய்றான், பத்து பொம்பளைய செய்றான்‌. அத‌ பத்தி உங்களுக்கென்ன‌. அவன் பொண்டாட்டி பிரச்சினை, உறவினர்கள் பிரச்சினை. அதுவும்...அவன் தனி மனித ஒழுக்க கேடு மட்டும் தானே?

பாஜக விலிரிந்து விலகுங்க டா பாப்பார முட்டா பயலுவளா னு அப்பத்திலிரிந்து சொல்லிட்டு இருக்கேன். மரியாதையா போயிருக்கலாம். மொதலியானும் கவுண்டனும் sketch போட்டு பார்ப்பானை தூக்குறான். பாஜக தான் புதிய திமுக‌. Actually, தமிழ்நாடு காங்கிரஸ் தான் முதல் திராவிட கட்சி. திமுக அதுக்கு அப்புறம் தான். பாஜக அடுத்த திராவிட கட்சி‌. Simple 

டேய் அறிவாளி பள்ளி, சான, கோன பயலுவளா...கவுண்டனும் மொதலியானும் இன்னைக்கு பார்ப்பானை தூக்குறான். நாளைக்கு உனக்கு sketch போடுவான் பார்.

திமுக முதலியார்/வெள்ளாளனும் பாஜக முதலியார்/வெள்ளாளனும் சண்டை போட்டுக்குற மாதிரி நடிப்பாங்க... நீங்களும் பாப்பார முட்டா பயலுவ மாதிரி அதை பார்த்து ஏமார மாட்டிங்க னு நினைக்கிறேன். இன்னைக்கு பாப்பான். நாளைக்கு பள்ளி, சான, கோனான்.

But then I had been thinking KTR was a sharp guy. Maybe he is, but not too sharp to keep his horny side secret. Also, they say he used to visit sushil hari intnl often. If he's a pedo, he should be behind bars ASAP.

திருமுருகன் காந்தி எனும் ஈழத்து வெள்ளாள நாய்

யாழ்ப்பாணத்து வெள்ளாள நாய்களுக்கு பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு கிடையாது என்று கேள்வி. அது என்னமோ தெரியல, தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு வந்தா இப்புடி ஆயிடுறானுங்க. திருமுருகன் காந்தி, பூவண்ணன் கணபதி.

இங்க வந்து பெரியார், இந்தியா, மாநில சுயாட்சி னு பேசுற...ஏண்டா டேய்..உங்க கதையை கொஞ்சம் நோண்டலாமா?

ஈழத்தில் நடந்தது தமிழர்களுக்கும் சிங்களவர்களுக்குமிடையான போரா, இல்ல வெள்ளாளனும் வெள்ளாளன் அல்லாதனுக்கும் நடந்த போரா? வெள்ளாளனுக்கும் சிங்களவனுக்கு இன்று வரை மண உறவுகள் உட்பட நெருக்கம் இருக்கா இல்லையா?

Was the Eelam civil war in Sri Lanka/Jaffna really Tamil vs Sinhala, or Vellala vs. Non-Vellala? Do not the tamil vellalas and the sinhala have close ties, including marriage, till today?

Think about this. Both Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi supported the LTTE. India supplied weapons and training to the LTTE. IPKF was sent for support of tamils. So why did the IPKF and LTTE end up fighting each other? Doesn't that sound fishy?

By 1987, SL army was closing in on the LTTE, then Rajiv Gandhi sent IPKF, and, in a show of force, carried out operation Poomalai. Basically, dropped food supplied from planes, and sent a message to SL that India would not be a mute spectator to the massacre of Tamils by the SL army. This was done by a man with balls. Rajiv Gandhi defied the SL govt with a show of force in order to show support and solidarity for the ethnic tamils in SL soil (LTTE included). So what went wrong?

The Indo-Sri Lanka Accord was signed after this. Basically, a peace accord between SL and India, to end the civil war. SL agreed to devolve powers to the tamil areas, and to retract its army in the North.

They say LTTE was pissed off that they were not invited to sign the accord. Its frivolous, lets dismiss that. What more did LTTE want? All of their demands were being satisfied. What are we missing here?

Im saying the LTTE, which was the representative of the lower caste tamils, was *forced to fight* the IPKF (maybe, threatened with a gruesome death) by the vellala mafia. Or, maybe it was not just LTTE which fought the IPKF. Did other orgs wear LTTE uniform and fight LTTE? There were many other orgs like PLOT, EPRLF, TELO, which were all run by vellalas.

Read this, for ex - > “Don’t tell them where we live” – Caste andaccess to education in northern Sri Lanka. Read that short paper to understand what kind of a society North SL tamil society was. The vellalas were the dominant group and had kept the remaining 50% non-vellalas like slaves. LTTE was more about dismantling vellala hegemony than Sinhala oppression. In fact, Sinhalas actually tried to help the lower caste tamils by bringing in district quotas in 1972. The other militant groups like PLOT, etc which LTTE is stated to have quelled, in its early days, were vellala-outfits.

If all Prabhakaran wanted was a separate, sovereign state, why did he hate the IPKF, who were sent for their support? Why did he oppose the Indo-SL accord, which could have been the key milestone towards that end? It doesn't add up, right?

Im saying the LTTE were somehow forced or tricked to fight the IPKF. Rajiv Gandhi and India thought that what was happening in Sri Lanka was Tamils vs Sinhala (thats what the vellalas say, in TN and abroad) and that, by helping the LTTE, he was helping tamils in their fight against the Sinhalas. He didn't realise that by helping the LTTE, he was making himself an enemy of the vellalas.

The two country heads who are said to be murdered by LTTE, Rajiv Gandhi (India), and Ranasinghe Premadasa (Sri Lanka) have one thing in common. Both supported the LTTE. Rajiv Gandhi did so thinking that to help LTTE was to help tamils. The latter was more conscious of the caste equations themselves. Ranasinghe Premadasa was the first non-goyigama PM or something. He was himself from a low social background, and even constructed a model casteless area in a highly caste-conscious tamil locality in the north. Were both the state heads really murdered by the LTTE, whom they supported? I don't know. Was Eelam war really Sinhala vs tamil, or Vellala vs. non-vellala? I don't know. Somehow, the current narrative of events don't add up. 

The Jaffna Vellala dog Thirumurugan says you need warlike spirit. He is trying to incite crowds. Nagarathar + Vellalar is mighty good at this. As usual, inciting strong casteist emotions and rage. This is a purely-tamil phenomenon. This level of crowd/emotion control. As usual, if India sees the use to which the Nattukottai Chettiar + the vellalas have put Manusmriti, India will be deeply deeply deeply shocked. Actually, India doesn't know tamils and tamil people at all. I guess even the neighbors Karnataka and Andhra don't. This is a unique place with a unique peoples.

Crypto Convert

When confronted with Brahmin hate, Brahmtards of tamil country often use this word -'crypto convert'. I think it means a Christian/Muslim who keeps a hindu sounding name.

They think that brahmin hate is created by Christians and Muslims who want to destroy Hinduism by destroying Brahmins who are the guardians of indhu madham. It's just plain old ego massaging. The technical word for these kinds of people is - லூசு கூதி (stupid cunt).

You istupid cunts, the one hundred year old brahmin hate in tamil country was built by 

Nattukottai Nagarathar (Chettiar)

Saiva Vellalas (Pillai)

Thuluva Vellala Mudaliar.

i.e., the most ritualized and hinduest of all Tamils. The most hinduest of tamil demons built brahmin hate, Dravidian movement, and the cult called 'periyar'. 'periyar' was not a person. 'periyar' is the name of the cult built by Chettiar+mudaliar+pillai behind which they could stand and shoot their poisoned arrows. 'periyar' was an alibi.