Is TamilBrahmins.com Forum Run by Saiva Vellalas/Mudaliar/Chettiars?

Considering the azhagu in which tam-brahm-tards are, I won't be surprised at all.

Update: They say they don't want to get into legal/political fight, which they have seen before. That makes sense. So, see how closely the enemy is watching. OF COURSE Nagarathar-Vellalar mafia is active on tamilbrahmins.com, subtly manipulating weak people. One very active member, Dr. Renuka, is a Nattukottai Nagarathar from Malaysia I guess. Phew! So, the folks who act on complaints from *these people*, do they know what has been going on in tamil country, and what this group has been doing?

என்னது? தி ஜானகிராமனும் வெள்ளாளனா? Is writer Thi. Janakiraman Vellala as Well?

மதிமாறன் சொல்றத பாத்தா அப்படி தானே தெரியுது.

"அவரை ஜானகிராமன் ஐயர் என்றே சொல்லலாம்"ஆ? அப்ப 'அம்மா வந்தாள்' கதையை எழுதிய சானகிமாறன் பாப்பானா இல்ல வழக்கம்போல அவனும் வெள்ளாளனா? டேய்...உங்கள கொஞ்சம் கூர்ந்து கவனித்துக்கொண்டிருக்கும் எனக்கே தல சுத்துது டா. என்ன ஊரு, என்ன மக்கள், என்ன இனம் டா இது. எனக்கு கோவம் கூட வர மாட்டிங்குது. ஏனெனில் நரம்பு, ஹ்ருதை 24 மணிநேரமும் வெடிக்கும் அளவுக்கு சம்பவங்கள் தமிழ்நாட்டில் ஒரு நூற்றாண்டாக நடந்துகொண்டிருக்கு. பாப்பார முட்டா பயலுவளுக்கு ஒரு மண்ணும் விளங்க மாட்டிங்குது.

ஜானகிராமனை யார் ப்ரஷ்டம் செஞ்சதுனு ரெண்டு பேர் கேக்குறான் பாருங்க. கண்டிப்பா ஏதோ பெரிய உள்கூத்து இருக்கு. 

'Amma Vandhaal' ('Mother Came') is a famous novel written by Thi. Janakiraman. It is about a Brahmin boy who goes to Veda Patashala, who learns about his mother's extramarital affair. It maybe be put under the 'soft erotica' genre. It was popularly believed  for 50 yrs that the author, Thi. Janakiraman, was hiself a Brahmin. But it turns out that he may not be. He's probably a vellala because only the vellala dogs of Tamil Country have a deep longing for that 'Brahmin' tag. Many saiva vellala dogs often identify themselves as Brahmin, opposing Dravidian Movt/Periyar while remaining aloof from the Brahmin hate side of it, or themselves indulging in subtle or open hate, like Thi. Ja, and Thozhar Marudhaiyan.

பவா செல்லதுரை எப்படி சிலாகிச்சு சிலாகிச்சு சொல்றான் பாருங்க. கீழான தமிழினத்துக்கு இது போன்ற கிளுகிளுப்பை ராசிக்கும் என்பதால் தான் வெள்ளாளன் அப்படி எழுதியிருக்கான். இந்த இனம் இந்த மாதிரியானது தானே?

Remember reading in Thurston that tamils were leading a lascivious, lawless life for a long time until recently; that sexual relations were free. Matriarchy, which I believe is still followed among Sri Lankan Tamils, is remnant of Man's animal past. Maybe the Sambandham/Marumakkathayam of Nairs in Kerala was actually a more structured version of the bestiality of tamil and malayali societies of the time. Maybe that's the one that's recorded, and that's why we know of it.

Moron Smriti of Rajiv Malhotra Should be Titled 'Moron Smriti- Rajiv Malhotra, An Autobiography'

Lol! I thought he was at least a man with some integrity and caliber. Some years back, I watched a video of this moron sitting with one of Paramahamsa (Ok, take it) Nithyananda's students, and witnessing an 'opening of the third eye' event.

For me, personally...I know this is a wrong thing, but I have certain calculations. If some people do some acts or associate with some people, that's sometimes an instant signal for me to judge that person. Association with Nithyananda instantly makes me judge somebody as being in a particular way. My character sketch of that person cannot improve beyond a point after that. Read this article New JNU honorary prof Rajiv Malhotra’s CV: Charges of plagiarism & whole lot of Hindutva

Seems like a lot of people feel the same way about Rajiv Malhotra.

The link on that article lands on this page. 

Signal#1. But that exchange does exist, and this is it. The other man is our Nithyananda. Check out this clip.

For me, 2 things are important in this clip

• 1. "this should be made available *only* for the agama people."
• 2. The way he coolly talks about defrauding billionaires. Means, firstly he exposes his great lust for money. No problem with that. Work hard and try to reach there. But what are you doing? Look how Nithyananda smiles unenthusiastically. Just plays along. I guess that's not because Nithyananda doesn't like the idea of selling intra-life money transfer to rich people, but because he knows that those rich people are not fooled so easily. He says in his mind "you gotta try harder, and sound more serious and original", which he does! 😆😃😄 This is his field. His area of expertise. He probably thinks that you have to say these things in a serious tone, as if you mean every word...not jest about it. Two frauds in total.

He obviously got the first point from Nithyananda's association. Even V.O.Chidambaram Pillai who is hailed as freedom fighter in lemuria, lamented about the many stages of 'sivadeekkai' etc within Saiva Sithantham. These are obviously filters for caste and wealth. Until a point in society, these 'agama rules' applied not only to those wanted to reach god, but to everyone!! The casteism of tamil society was enforced using the 'agamas' of these vellala dogs.

Check out this article Vellala caste fascism disguised as Tamil nationalism

"saivite rituals that determined Jaffna-centric lives from womb to tomb". Who did that? The vellalas. In Tamil Country, the vellalas most probably allied with the feudal landholding/martial castes like Maravars, Kallars, Balija Naidus, Udayars, Agamudayars in order to control the masses. We know that 'kangani's are usually from this group. So, An elite layer plus a controlling layer controlled the entire society. The masses didn't have a choice because the group had all the resources. Social mobility today is a function of industrialization, not any special initiative. Most certainly not that of the Dravidian Movement of the vellala + Chettis. The Dravidian Movement was like this.

They just timed themselves in order to claim credit for everything that happened as a result of modernity and industrialization. That's not the shocking part. The shocking part is how they made tamils believe that for a full one hundred years. It might be shocking for normal humans to know how many in Tamil country still say that. This is *the* constant cry of Dravidian Movement -

"You/We are like this today...able to access education, go to proper jobs, wear chappals on our foot, live with dignity, be free men...because of Dravidian Movement and because of Periyar. Before that, Brahmins had kept us tamils as slaves for 2000 years and denied us education and basic dignity of life. We had to have our head bowed all the time. #drav and Periyar freed us."

One hundred years. No kidding. It is *the* war cry on political tamil YouTube today too. Anyways, my point is that this 'agama' mania is from the vellalas. It was actually their tool of control. I don't know where the tentacles of the vellala mafia go, but surely they go far. Dravidian Movement was constructed for the British by the vellalas/Mudaliars in order to stab Congress's freedom struggle in the back, and to secure the British rule in India. The British were the source of the money and influence of the vellalas and chettis of tamil lands. They constructed Dravidian Movement for the British. At least, that's how it started.

Chettiar/Mudaliar/Vellala mafia is insidious. India has to be alerted. This seems creepy. I don't think Rajiv Malhotra wrote that book by himself. I think vellala mafia might have used him to distort reality and bury their truths..

"Another nail in the coffin of Indian higher education'. Lol! 😅😂 I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Another article - Plagiarism row: How Rajiv Malhotra became the Ayn Rand of Internet Hindutva. The most important takeaway for Brahmins of TN is - there is one good news and one bad news. The good news is that if Rajiv Malhotra goes down, its easier to break this illusion of 'Breaking India' forces operating through Dravidian Movement. Maybe there is an impending danger from BI, I don't know, but that was most certainly not the source of Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement and its Brahmin hate. Its complicated. 

The bad news is that, as of today, there is no book that talks about the massive, massive truths about Dravidian Movement and its relation to Indian freedom struggle, and its path after that, and about the hundred year old Brahmin hate in Tamil Country. The 'inside world' of the tamil stands isolated from popular mainstream of Indian intelligentsia.

Dravidian Movement was/is *NOT* Anti-Hindu, or Built by Anti-Hindu Forces to Undermine Hinduism and India

Far from it. Can Brahmins please please please get together and talk about it? This is an urgent need of the hour. Im Ok with people of other states, no matter which caste they belong to. Tamil demons, kindly excuse. Go to BJP/RSS.

There is unimaginable Brahmin hate in Tamil Country. It has been going on literally non-stop for more than one hundred years. More disturbing than that is people saying Dravidian Movement is anti-hindu, and 'church' is doing these things.

Dravidian Movement was built by the defacto powers of tamil country in order to defeat the efforts towards freedom struggle that Brahmins in Congress were trying to take. The Non-Brahmin Manifesto lamented that Congress had changed a lot. THE NON-BRAHMIN MANIFESTO (1916)

The 'Congress' started out as a cosmopolitan club for the rich and influential people. At one point, Brahmins flocked to the 'Congress' and used it to rouse crowds for freedom struggle. The other castes in 'Congress' did not exactly feel about this as strongly as the Brahmins did, but played along. This will get too complex, but I don't want to get into it at the moment.

But Dravidian Movement, as well as a most toxic Brahmin hate in Tamil Nadu, were built chiefly by 3 castes

• Nattukottai Nagarathar (a.k.a 'Chettiar')
• Saiva Vellalar (title - 'pillai')
• Thondaimandala Thuluva Vellala Mudaliar

There is an other caste identified with the title 'mudaliar'. Sengundhar or Kaikolar Mudaliar. Apart from Annadurai and Bharathidasan, I do not know of any other kaikolars at the forefront of the Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Movement. And, Saiva Vellalas, the chief agents of Brahmin hate in tamil country, have many sub-groups. There is thondaimandala kondai katti vellalar. Chozhiya vellalar. Kaarkaatha vellalar. Pandiya Vellalar. Kongu Vellalar Goundars have contributed too, though they were not at the forefront, AFAIK.

So, the one hundred years of Brahmin hate in Tamil Country has been carried out by the topmost and most ritualized, sanskritized of tamils. Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai. The Brahmin hate of Periyar was simply an amplification of a source signal. Periyar or karunanidhi or DMK are not the source signal. They are amplifiers.

The source signal of Brahmin hate in Tamil Country was always Nagarathar + Vellalar.

எந்த தலைவருக்கு பின்னாலும் ஒரு தமிழ் ஆசிரியர் இருப்பாராம். காரணம் தமிழ் ஆசிரியர்களுக்கு பின்னால் பெரியார் இருப்பாராம். சைவ பிள்ளை கொஞ்சம் மாத்தி சொல்லிடுச்சு. தமிழ் ஆசிரியர்களுக்கு பின்னால் பெரியார் இல்லை. பெரியாருக்கு பின்னால் தான் தமிழ் ஆசிரியர்/புலவர்கள்.

Periyar was simply an alibi for the infinite brahmin hate of Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai. I don't know how Brahmins could be so asleep so as to not see what this group has been doing to them in Tamil Country. Periyar's caste, balija naidus, ruled TN and Sri Lanka via Madurai, Gingee, Tanjore and Kandy Nayaka Dynasties. அதனால் தான் அவர் பெரியாரே. But since the collapse of proper monarchies, a band of elites have been the string pullers in the lower area. Vellalas and Chettis. Balija Naidus needed the support of this band of tamil elites in order to be effective. They did not know the people. This combo of vellala + balija was at work in Sri Lanka too. Eelam war was not tamil vs sinhala. It was vellala vs non-vellala. Maybe I'll write about it too.

Now, what happens when you ascribe Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Movt and its Brahmin hate to anti-hindu non-hindus?

The hindu/saiva tamils automatically become good guys!! As if to say all evils are created by 'church' to defeat hinduism, by uprooting Brahmins first. That notion fans the egos of Brahmins and that's why they are not relinquishing it. This is disastrous beyond measure. If you call it anti-hindu, you make good guys of the 'hindu' tamils. But fact is that the hinduest of tamils built Brahmin hate and Dravidian Movement.

I don't know how many of you have read this very poorly written book called 'Breaking India' by Aravindhan Neelakandan Rajiv Malhotra. Rajiv Malhotra does not really have the creds to say the things he has been saying. Plagiarism row: How Rajiv Malhotra became the Ayn Rand of Internet Hindutva

I have a doubt whether Rajiv Malhotra was approached by Vellala mafia to write a book saying such things. We seriously need more heads. More clear heads.

Dravidian Movement was pact between upper shudras Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai + Balija Naidu, and lower shudras Vanniyar + Nadar + Konar + Goundar et al.

What's happening today is that the lower shudras are simply breaking away and jumping to RW. Most of the guys in today's TN BJP/RW are the very groups which helped keep Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai's Dravidian Movement and Brahmin hate alive. But they are now acting as if they had nothing to do with it. They are shifting to India's narrative of Hindu vs anti-Hindu. India/BJP doesn't know Tamils and Tamil Country. It thinks the problem is indeed hindu vs anti-hindu. But the tamils in hindutva know that it is not so, BUT THEY STILL SAY IT! They are burying mountains of truth.

We need more heads.

அதென்ன 'வருணாசிரம சந்திரிகை'? கேள்வி பட்டிருக்கீங்களா?

யார் எழுதியது? இந்த எச்சில் இலை வெள்ளாள நாய்களின் விளையாட்டுக்குள் ஆழகமாக போகணும். சோம்பேறித்தனமா இருக்கு. Internetல வெள்ளாள சிவாச்சாரி நாய்கள் எழுதிய ஏதோ ஒரு புத்தகத்திலிருந்து இந்த ஒரு குறிப்பு + தினமலரில் ஒரு குறிப்பு, மொத்தம் 2 தான் கிடைத்தது.

துறவறம் என்பது ஒரு சாதிக்கு தான் நா...ஆதீன மடங்களுக்கு எல்லாரும் தலைவன் ஆகிடலாமா? அந்த விதியை போட்டது யார்? அந்த பக்கம் அந்த விதியை எழுதி வெச்சு, வெள்ளாள-நாட்டுக்கோட்ட நாய்கள் கருப்பு சொக்கா போட்டுகுனு "நம்ம ஆளுங்க தான். ஆனா பாப்பான் கெடுத்துட்டான்"நுடுவான். இந்த வெள்ளாள நாய்கள் குடுக்கும் "சிவ தீக்கை" எல்லாரும் குடுப்பானா? எவனோ ஒரு குலத்துக்கு ஒரு நீதி எழுதி வெச்சா உன் புத்தி எங்க பீ தின்ன போச்சு? எழுதி வெச்சுட்டா நிகழும் யதார்த்தம் அப்படியே மாறிடுமா? இல்லை.

என்ன விளையாட்டுன்னா.. இந்த வெள்ளாள-நாட்டுக்கோட்ட நாய்களுக்கு அந்த பக்கம் பார்பனீயமும் வேண்டும், இந்த பக்கம் பார்ப்பன எதிர்ப்பும் வேண்டும். ரெண்டுத்தையும் கட்டமைப்பது இவர்கள் தான். வேற எவனும் இருக்க கூடாது, செத்து போய்டணும் னு சாஸ்திரம் சொன்னா செத்து போய்டுவியா?

தனக்கு தேவையானதை எடுத்துக்கிட்டு...அதை 'வேதம், சாஸ்திரம், ஆகமம்' என்ற labelக்குள் அடக்கி..."அதையெல்லாம் பாப்பான் சொல்லி தான் நா பண்ணேன்"னு சொல்லி பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு செய்யணும்.

"பள்ளி கட்டி படிக்க வைக்க பாப்பான் கிட்ட பணம் இல்ல. ஆனா அந்த பணம் வெச்சிருந்த மன்னன், பெரிய ஆள் எல்லாரும் பாப்பான் சொன்னதை தான் கேட்டான்"நுடுவான். இந்த பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பும் திராவிட அரசியலும் அந்த 'பெரிய' ஆட்களுடையது தான்.

எல்லோருக்கும் தனக்கு கீழ் இருக்கணும் னு அடக்கி வெச்சிருந்தான். ஒரு levelக்கு மேல எல்லோரும் எழுந்து வர ஆரம்பிச்சதும் குதிச்சு தானே அந்த பக்கம் போய் அவன் எழுச்சிக்கு தானே தலைவன் ஆயிட்டான். இந்த பக்கம் ஒரு பெரிய பார்ப்பனீய பேய் இருக்கு, அந்த பேய் தான் உன்ன இத்தனை நாள் படிக்க விடாம பண்ணிச்சு. இன்னைக்கு நீ படிக்கிறதே நா உன்னை தூக்கி விட்டதால் தான் னு சொல்லிட்டு வந்திருக்கு இந்த நாட்டுக்கோட்டை-பலிஜ-வெள்ளாள நாய் கூட்டம். அதையும் தமிழ் குரங்கு கூட்டம் ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு உக்காந்து கேட்டிருக்கு.

அக்காலத்தில் "வருணாசிரம மாநாடுகள்" நடத்தப்பட்டதுன்னு நமக்கு தெரியும். அதிலெல்லாம் என்ன சொல்ல பட்டது?

இதில் வெள்ளாள, நாட்டுக்கோட்டை நாய்கள் அந்த பக்கம் + இந்த பக்கம் என்ன விளையாட்டு விளையாடினார்கள் என்று கண்டறியனும்.

ஆனா கண்டிப்பா ஏதோ இருக்கு. ஏனெனில்...அவ்வளவு பிரச்சாரத்தின் நடுவில் ராஜாஜி 'குல தொழில்' பற்றி எப்படி பேச தோணியது? அவர் ஒரு பக்கம் தான் நாம் பார்க்கிறோம்.இன்னொரு பக்கம், ஆத்திகவாதி நகரத்தார்-வெள்ளாளர் போய் "சுவாமி...வருணாசிரம தர்மத்தை பற்றி, குல தொழில் பற்றி எவளோ அழகா பேசினீர் சுவாமி. மெய் சிலுர்த்து போய் விட்டது. அதை பற்றி திரும்ப திரும்ப, அடிக்கடி பேசுங்க சுவாமி. அதை சட்டமாக கொண்டு வந்தால் கூட நல்ல வரவேற்பு இருக்கும் ஆச்சாரியா அவர்களே" னு சொன்னார்களா?

கண்டுபிடிக்கணும்...

Oh! You Tam-Brahm retards

You simply do not realize what kind of malice you are sitting right next to, and what kind of malice and hate have been working against you.

Just happened to read this article Japanese Scholar Who Caught the Whispers of a South Indian Past about Noboru Karashima, written by a guy called Prof. A. Srivathsan.

3-4 years of observing Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) Movement non-stop has made my eyes and ears sharp. Gotta thank them for that. The subtle undertones of Brahmin hate in the article are not hard to miss.

This Prof. A. Srivathsan is most probably a saiva vellala. saiva sellalas tend to be tamil teachers in Government schools in Tamil Country a lot of times, and the kind of Brahmin hate they feed there to batch after batch after batch of students is unimaginable. Nagarathar-Vellalar hate is non-human. Demoniac.

One guy once told me in Twitter that he had a saiva vellala neighbor who was a government school teacher. He apparently used to tell him that Brahmins sent their wives to the British. Saiva Vellala hate has to be seen to be understood. Saiva Vellalas are the chief creators of Brahmin hate in TN. Thuluva Vellala Mudaliars are the chief creators of the larger political framework called 'Dravidian Movement'. The saiva vellalas infused their vitriol into that framework

One of the founders of 'The Wire', Siddharth Varadarajan, is supposed to be Brahmin. I have always been amazed at the shamelessness and blindness and stupor of tam-brahms. Ok, agree that there is no other parallel to tamil/chettiar/mudaliar/vellala hate and malice in the whole world. But, your stupor is unacceptable.

Aravindhan Neelakandan, who wrote 'Breaking India', saying that 'Church' created Dravidian Movement and Brahmin hate in Tamil Country, is a saiva vellala himself!! And that vellalas' cock and bull theory of 'Church' standing behind Dravidian Movement is the standing theory for most tam-brahm retards too!

I understand what the problem is. The tamil is black and ugly. Black and ugly outside. Black and ugly inside. It is a great pain to watch tamil for extended periods of time. Brahmins have always been aloof from the tamil. The less we see of them, the more happy we are. We just turn our heads away from unpleasant things. The tamil is the nastiest of all unpleasant things in the whole glorious creation of God. So, Brahmins just turn away from it. I am like that too. I don't talk politics or caste to anybody in real world. But, wouldn't Brahmins see it vicariously, through YouTube/internet? That's how I did it too. I know zilch directly from ground level. Only internet...

This level of callousness is disastrous. Understanding political and social movements requires a certain weight of the brain and intellect. It is honed over the years. Unless we turn that way, and look at what they've been doing, we won't develop that weight. And we will forever be in the dark.

I don't accept the excuse of tam-Brahms outside Tamil Country being oblivious to the hate of Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidia) movt on account of not seeing the discourse on the ground. You can't be so blind and so aloof. I don't know if the other founder of 'The Wire', M.K.Venu, is Brahmin, or saiva vellala, or a saiva vellala who goes about saying he's Brahmin. There are many of those in that demoniac clan.

And I have long suspected that 'The Hindu' has been infiltrated by Nagarathars-Vellalar mafia. The chettiar dog S. Muthiah used to be so cozy with The Hindu. Wonder if the insides have been infiltrated/controlled.

But then, watching this interview 

made me think. Why did 'The Hindu' become a mouthpiece for A. Raja/DMK during 2G case? SV 'The Hindu' saying that he was leaving because it had become a family run business again. N. Murali's resignation letter says that N. Ram was overstaying in his role, beyond the stipulated 65-yr old limit. Was N. Ram bought by Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) mafia?

Maybe there is a lot that we don't see and know. A lot that SV knows, but can't speak about. My guess is that there is a ring of fire, a circle, into which we dare not go, even if the law gives us freedom of speech. There is no guarantee of freedom after speech if we go into that circle, maybe. So, maybe, SV is doing the best he can while being careful not to move into that circle and speak about that.

Overall moral of the story : - Nagarathar-Vellalar malice works sleeplessly. We can't afford to be blind to all that, and sleep. *yawn*.

The Games the Vellala Plays From Neutral Stage

Self contradictory tweets within half an hour. And some guy asks "have you guys started spreading this out of TN too?"

Shabbaaaa...I have long held that the Vellala mafia have infiltrated hindutva long ago. They maybe like the tamilnadu-incharge for hindutva. All the while making people say "see, the church is making inroads". Rajiv Malhotra might have been compromised to begin with.

வெள்ளாளன் வினையை, விளையாட்டுகளை குரங்கு உலகத்திலிரிந்து, குரங்கு மூலைக்குள்ளிரிந்து பார்த்தால் சட்டென்று விலங்கி விடும்.

Most importantly the Vellalas/mudaliars who claim to be against Dravidian movt and RW are most dangerous. They get the benefit of what their clan has been doing, but distance themselves, just to save their name and face.

They might say they have nothing to do with #drav. But just scratch a little...

Update :- 

He he he...poor old @realitycheckind still hasn't peeped into the well of malice that vellala soothra kuttis are. Far from it. See how the vellala dogs twist *every single word*. "There are still some Brahmins who support dharma...".

They say...in the older days, there were bands of elites that could topple kings if the king was not forthcoming. They could create a frenzy of hate, and make the king unpopular.

This would be a good mnemonic to understand Nagarathar+Vellalar :- Everything they say is designed for the public narrative!

They are not talking to you. They are talking to the lemurian crowd. They are talking to feed their worldview + hate to the unquestioning lemurian crowd. They are saying those things which would set forth a chain of emotions in the minds of the listeners + in line with the overall agenda/worldview. The emotions that they want to incite.

Now see this line. They have postured themselves on the side of Dharma, even if they are doing brahmin hate.

The superpower of the elites is their sway over the Tamil mind, and this was why they were formidable forces even during and cholas and nayakas. Soothra kutti is speaking about rights of former rulers because their privilege belongs to the feudal agricultural society times. This is the real cause of anger on corporate. It affords social mobility to every dog.