Tuesday, July 27, 2021

Relationships between Kamaraj Congress - Periyar - Karunanidhi DMK

 This is simply the translation of this piece written by Thiruchi Selventhiran who is an important Periyarist (Don't know whether to put him in Congress or DMK brackets. Its all the same, but different, in TN. Maybe ill expand in some other post)

Link to original blog post -> http://nambitn.blogspot.com/2014/06/blog-post_6.html. You can check out the full blog. Its somewhat interesting.







Some observations about the above piece

1. It is proved without doubt that Kamaraj won purely because of Periyar's and DK's help. Rajaji had publicly raised the issue of 'Congress' cozying up with DK and Periyar around 1957 elections. But by then, 'Congress' had become a completely Dravidian Party using the facade of the old Congress brand (just like the vellalas are doing today with SwarajyaMag? A wolf in sheep's clothing.)

2. There definitely was factionalism within Congress, and Periyar supported the Kamaraj side. He also says the other side is the Bhaktavatsala Mudaliar side. Bhaktavatsalam and other Mudaliars spoke and wrote about temples. Periyar claimed to oppose that side.

3. A shift of Periyar and DK from Congress to DMK after Kamaraj Congress's loss in 1967. Selventhiran and many DK cadre had been sympathetic to DMK for a long time. If we connect all the dots and read between the lines, it is quite easy and obvious. The nadars and vanniyars and other non-dominant castes had jumped from Congress to DMK, because of the Mudaliars' oppressive behaviour in Congress. One important thing to note here is...Bhaktavatsalam was Thondaimandala Saiva Vellala/Mudaliar caste, and Annadurai was from the Kaikolar/Sengundhar Mudaliar caste. Though they both share the mudaliar title, the former look down upon the latter.

4. So, it is obvious that, both within 'Congress', and DMK, and between DMK and 'Congress' the conflict was basically friction between castes. The parties come later. The parties were used by the castes. Those castes/layers are, in my view
  • Brahmins
  • Vanniyar, Nadar
  • Kaikolar and Thondaimandala Mudaliars
  • Mudaliar/Chettiar/Pillai/Balija

Other groups like Udayars, Konars, Thevar, Goundar chose their own sides from this main rooster fight.

Brahmins were at the helm in Congress only till 1954, till Rajaji's forced resignation. After that, the Mudaliars, Nadars and Vanniyars shamelessly held on to the 'Congress' brand, but in effect, it was a Dravidian Party.

It indulged in things which DMK and #drav would later call 'Brahminical' because the mudaliars wanted it. So, the Mudaliars/Vellalas in DK, DMK would blame Brahmins for the acts of the Mudaliars/Vellalas within 'Congress', and this would be passed on to the crowd, which would drink this in, and repeat and improvise upon this.. This is the 'ஆத்திகவாதி நாத்திகவாதி' (theist and 'denier-of-god') trick of Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai (Dravidian) Movement. Nobody bothers to unearth this because they are not the ones under fire, which is why I say, this is a task for Brahmins alone.

There was, initially, Brahmins vs Mudaliars/Vellala/Balija friction within Congress. Then, there was Vellala/Mudaliar vs Nadar+Vanniyar brushings. Periyar sided with the latter, as we can see. So, as long as Kamaraj was at the helm, Vanniyar, Nadar, etc had the upper hand, with Periyar's support.

With the coming of Bhaktavatsala Mudaliar into the scene, these guys lost their space, and they fought back. They eyed longingly at Dravida Mudaliar Kazhagam. Maybe they decided Annadurai Mudaliar was better than Bhaktavatsala Mudaliar. DMK too, had lots of Thondaimandala Mudaliars. It was not fully a sub-alt camp. It was only less elite in comparison to 'Congress', or, wanted to portray itself as such.

After Vanniyar, Nadar shifted to DMK, and Congress lost, Periyar shifted there too. The friction was now shifted to a new boat, DMK. With Anna's death, the sub-alt groups, with the help of Periyar, 'arab-and-the-camel'ed the mudaliars in DMK.

Moral of the story : Without understanding the caste equations, we wouldn't understand the politics. And nobody will tell us all this. We have to glean it from the events. Connect the dots, and read between the lines.

The Truth Behind "Hindi Imposition" in the 60's and 30's in Tamil Nadu

 It was never imposed.


Annadurai and Dravida Mudaliar Kazhagam deliberately misconstrued the word "may". Lol! Bunch of buffoons. Even Lal Bahadur Shastri gang promised they won't push Hindi even though they were ardent supporters.

This habit of using college students as a political rowdy force was first started by DMK in 1960's, I guess. Can you imagine. 50000 fricking thousand college students. This was not DMK vs Hindi or North. This was DMK (& the nadars, vanniyars) vs Bhaktavatsala Mudaliar. Nadars, Vanniyars had maybe become too cozy in "Congress". Bhaktavatsalam and other Mudaliars probably endured the showcasing of  kamaraj nadar only to get popular support.

Even in the Parliament, only 41 people were probably in favor of Hindi imposition. The bare truth is that Hindi was never imposed, even in 1938, in Rajaji's rule.

In 1938, only "teaching Hindi" was compulsory...sitting in the classes. It was not necessary to pass the Hindi paper to go to the next class. This too, was only in 125 schools.

Below screenshot is from this https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/cover-story/story/19770831-opposition-to-hindi-at-every-level-in-tamil-nadu-818906-2015-04-24 link. All other SS's are from Wikipedia.


As regards 1938, I think there were other factors at play. The Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement was orchestrated by the British to thwart the freedom struggle of the Congress, and to cement their rule in India. They used the local powers for this. The local powers already had Brahmin hate smoldering in them, so they gladly acquiesced.

We *always* have to see the timing of the events, pre-independence. Various Chettiar/Vellala women anointed Venktata Ramasamy with the sobriquet 'Periyar' in late 1938. Hitler invaded Poland on Sep 1, 1939, thereby initiating the WW2. But, Germany had already started rearmament and conscription by mid 1930's, violating the treaty of Versailles. Churchill and others had already been warning that war was around, so...the British were anticipating many things, and I guess this level-upping of their on-the-ground machinery was part of their plans for war. Their loyal dog, South Indian Liberal Federation, had failed the 1937 elections too, so they were without any hold. Many people have said that the GoI Act 1935 itself showed that British rule was going to end soon. We have to see from the war PoV. Some military head of UK once stated that the British could not have won both world wars without India's support.

So, the timing is important. We need to dig more into this. Do-bashis were interpreters to the British. What did the British relay to the do-bashis? Did they only say that they wanted certain effects to be realized, or did they themselves plan and dictate everything?

But this, the anti-hindi protests of 1938, definitely had to do with WW2, that much is certain.

We can forgive 30's and 60's because they at least contained the words "language", "hindi", etc. Rajiv Gandhi's 1986 policy spoke nothing at all about language. He just introduced Navodaya schools. But "DMK claimed" that hindi would be compulsory in Navodaya schools. Even assuming that to be true, it is still way too far from "hindi imposition".


I once heard Suba Veerapandia Chettiar recount an incident. Don't know whether is really happened or, or, and whether #drav "arranged" this incident for DMK's 1986 hindi opposition. Apparently, there was some conference happening in Chennai or somewhere in TN. One of the delegates, who was north Indians apparently asked why there were no name plates in hindi, and threw away the board, or something of that sort. "அந்த ஒரு சிறிய சம்பவம் உருவாக்கிய தீப்பொறி தான் பெரும் தீ பிழம்பாக மாறியது". (That small incident created a spark that became a raging fire).

Aama Aama, if its lemuria, they can create a spark out of anything, and make it into a big fire, and keep it going. Hindi imposition, like most of Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement's highly publicized, romanticized dramas, is a full 100% lie. NEET drama is happening right in front of our eyes.

P.S. - M. Bhaktavatsalam Mudaliar, the CM at the time of the anti-hindi agitiations of Dravida Mudaliar Kazhagam, has written a book called 'The Absurdity of Anti-Hindi Policy'.

Saturday, July 24, 2021

TN BJP's New Game Plan

Or, should I say, the new game plan of the ex-servants and beneficiaries of the Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement. One hundred years is too long for anything. Tamils are desperate for change, it seems. This drama is stretching on too much. After its over, you're going nowhere. After this, life goes in reverse for tamils. Your hate is going to descend on you tenfold, no matter where in the world you are. (Post is slightly long, but important for tam-brahms)

" 'கடவுள்'னா நா இயற்கையை சொல்றேன்" (By 'God', I mean nature)- Senior Journalist Mani. ப்பா room போட்டு யோசிச்சிருப்பான் போலிருக்கு. What an intellectual. Amazed. This is just 'atheism' for now, and is Ok. It only begins to get outrageous when it becomes the 'கடவுள் மறுப்பு' (denial-of-god) of chettiar-mudaliar-pillai (dravidian) movement.

Apparently, the event, or, the turn of events that caused this outburst was...The new TN BJP head Annamalai Kuppusamy apparently said that TN BJP will soon 'discpline' the media in TN and teach them good manners or something like that. To quote Mani, Annamalai said "Media will soon be in our hands, and *this is why L. Murugan has been appointed as minister of broadcast/telecom*."

Tactless, of course.

Mani then rants and laments about how BJP has mutilated the media in India, and this is a problem not only in TN, but all over the country. Kinda agree with it.

This is the background. Some of my thoughts on this. My post about the outer global political tectonic shifts within which #drav happened was written at the time Annamalai entered TN BJP. My 6th sense is in good shape. The pact between goundans and BJP kinda stares you in the face. Konars, don't know, for now. There were whispers that sathankulam incident was konars vs nadars. I thought nadars were cozy in TN BJP/RSS.

SILF, TN INC, DMK, TN BJP...they have a history of biting the hand that feeds them. Wouldn't blame them. If they fall, they fall on dalits. They need to do anything and everything to stay up. Until later part of 20th century, nadars and vanniyars, the chief slaves of the Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement. A logical question could be asked "If you (Periyar, #drav) wanted to eradicate caste, why didn't you simply start at the bottom? Paraiyar, pallar, sakkiliar"?

There can be many answers, many of them non-malicious, and efficiency-related, but the reason why Periyar and #drav did was... they never bothered about caste-annihilation. That was a euphemism for the brahmin hate for the topmost tamil castes, and a flowery idea for politics. They just used it to rouse and invoke emotions. They didnt empower dalits because, then, the whole society would have discarded them, because the whole society is casteist.

Instead, they empowered the ones *just* above the dalits - chiefly, Vanniyar, Nadar.

In other words, they invested where they thought RoI would be highest. To deserve that empowerment, you needed to rattle the cages like anything, which vanniyar + nadar had been doing, for half a century before Dravidian Movement began. (and you needed to have numerical strength for that) They were clamoring for more space. The elites of tamil lands had been watching all this helplessly. They wanted to, but couldn't do anything to stop the empowerment that happened as a result of modernization.

So, instead of opposing, they did what Regenerative Braking does in automobiles. They slowed them down, and derived energy out that. This way, the goal of the project was to prolong their old privilege for as long as possible.

So, vanniyar+nadar had numerical strength, and were desirous of upward social mobility. The upper groups had no other choice but to accommodate them. Today's TN BJP is filled with those same groups that kept Dravidian Movement alive, plus the Goundars. Maybe I see some thevars too, but that's not the point.

The point is...the way tamil criminals are changing the narrative, and will continue to do so. They will bring the new narrative of Hindu vs anti-Hindu, and actively destroy the old narrative.

Brahmins of TN may think "but isn't that a good thing? Isn't that our objective? To make #drav, and Brahmin hate stop?"

Not for me. I was never worried about destroying the Dravidian Movement because it has to die anyways. Making the Brahmin hate stop was never my goal because I believe the worst is already over. My objective is to bring it out, and show it to the world. And then let them form opinions about what kind of people tamils, and Chettiar, Mudaliar, Pillai, are. It's complicated, and Im not saying it here. Just showing that hate to non-tamils is my goal and its the hardest part. India"

Im worried about Brahmin hate in TN first, and Hindutva, BJP, RSS, India, Hinduism, Congress next. Because none of them know my plight, and probably care about it too. Not only that, there is a great danger of outsiders completely misunderstanding the milieu in TN. Tamil criminals will not bother to impart correct understanding too. For ex, Tejasvi Surya says "We will destroy the anti-hindu Dravidian Movement, and bring hindutva/hinduism in TN".

Amul baby doesnt know what he's talking about. What does "destroying Dravidian Movement and planting the saffron flag in TN" mean? That's was senior journalist Mani is warning about.

Is it like the changing of guards at wagha border? agni satti out, thamarai in?

What is the change? Are we banishing the bandit/thief, and installing our policeman in the village? Nope.

The policeman *IS* the bandit, but non-tamils don't get this message. They are not aware that most of the pallis, saanans, konans, goundans who are active in TN BJP today are the very groups that helped keep Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement alive, and benefitted from it. There are 'breaking india' crackheads everywhere. They think a bunch of obscure, powerful anti-hindu people are running Dravidian Movement, and that hindus have to destroy them. Why don't Indians stop thinking in terms of mythology? Destroy the devil of Dravidian movement, and rescue the goddess of hinduism, and plant our good guys, the hindu tamils there, eh? Those hindu tamil monsters were the devils too. Dravidian movt and Brahmin hate was built and kept alive by the most hinduest of all tamils. India doesn't know this.

But this is what is being suggested all the time. Replace the bad guy 'A' with the good guy 'B'.

But what if A=B? What if...A was a bad guy all along, but now he finds that being bad is not going to be so profitable, and, more importantly, tolerated, and welcomed. Dravidian movement and its Brahmin hate lived for a century because palli, saanan, konan, goundan and tamils in general approved of it.

But now, the crowd is restless. #drav lived because tamils approved of it. #drav is in rocky waters because tamils don't approve of it whole heartedly now. Now, they want new toys. A, who was tolerated and hailed by tamils, is being criticized for being A. So, A undergoes personality changes to become B.

The criminal behavior here is... B too talks the language of India. As if A was a different person!!! 😂😆😅

India doesn't know, Tejasvi Surya doesn't know that A = B. But A, and the tamil crowd knows, right? This is how criminal they are, and this is my problem. Tamil crowd will start speaking of things differently. Different from how they were. They will bury their history entirely.

Just heard this podcast about Hindutva recently https://seenunseen.in/episodes/2019/4/8/episode-115-the-intellectual-foundations-of-hindutva/. I thought I'd post a short, separate post about this, but good that I got a chance now.

I think this can be taken as an official confirmation.

THERE ARE NO INTELLECTUAL FOUNDATIONS OF HINDUTVA!

70% of the talk is obsessed with muslims and islam, and the remaining % of the time when they discuss Golwalkar, Savarkar, etc, the anchor asks "But, Aakar, there is nothing here", and the interviewee laughs and says "Yes. Its the bitter truth". Something like that. Just one small interesting segment about organizational ability of Golwalkar and how he expanded RSS during the 30 yrs he led it. But nothing at all about intellectual foundations. Because there is none.

So, what is it that Senior Journalist Mani fears will enter TN? Hindutva is empty even in Nagpur. I have my own thoughts about that. To brahmins of TN who observe politics, it might seem like #drav is built on some ideology. On some solid ground. But observe closely.

They often say " 'திராவிடம்' என்பது ஒரு கருத்தியல். 'ஆரியம்' என்ற கருத்தியலுக்கான எதிர் கருத்தியல், எதிர்சொல்.

ஆரியம் = பார்ப்பனீயம் = பிறப்பிலேயே மனிதர்களை பிரிக்கும் வர்ணாசிரம கொள்கை + பெண் அடிமைத்தனம் தான் ஆரியம். பிறப்பில் அனைவரும் சமம், 'பிறப்பொக்கும் எல்லா உயிர்க்கும்' என்பது தான் திராவிடம். அனைவருக்கும் அனைத்தும் என்பது தான் சமூக நீதி, அது தான் திராவிடம்".

( "Dravidian movt is built on the ideology of Dravidianism, which is defined simply as the counter to Aryanism, which is the same as Brahminism. Dividing people at birth via varnashrama dharma + enslavement of women is aryanism. Saying everyone is equal + emancipation of women is dravidianism)

This is the ideology. The intellectual foundation of #drav. As you can see, they don't say "Im saying this. Im this."

They say "Im the opposite of whatever you say. HE SAYS X. And my ideology is 'anti-X' ".

They define themselves as the negative and counter of something they impress upon the crowd that the other person is saying.

So, the "other" is necessary for #drav act. The "other" is Brahmins, Brahminism, caste system, Aryanism, Hindutva, all put together. This is not really an ideology or an 'intellectual foundation'.

"Im the opposite of whatever you are" is not really an intellectual stand. It might seem solid, but that's because of lemuria. The unquestioning hordes of monkeys.

So, BJP thinks that its a matter of replacing the bad guy A with the good guy B, in TN. But I know, and tamil criminals know that A = B.

Neither A nor B have intellectual foundations. What is Senior Journalist Mani scared about?

"திராவிடம் விழுந்துவிட்டால் சாதி உள்ளே நுழைந்து விடும்" is an oft-repeated quote.

("If #drav falls, 'caste' will enter in again")

You can't appreciate this from the human world and human intellect. You have to enter the lemurian world, lemurian emotions and lemurian sense of things.

Is there no 'caste' now? Will caste come in only if #drav falls? Isn't it absurd? They will say "no no, things will become very very bad, like the old times. We put it in check. It is so much better now."

But, that "very very bad" of the old times was made so by the same vellala, chettiar, balija dogs who built Dravidian Movment! (+maravars, maybe)

They brought down their own casteism because they needed the service of the lower castes for their political movement. They needed labor. They realized that their old privilege and dominance was going to go. The people who had kept caste rigid for centuries, were the folks who built #drav, which says "all are equal at birth".

So, they took their own castesim several notches down. They made a show of fighting the "other", which was basically their own creation. The crowd doesn't ask. Because there is no incentive for saying the truth, and there are incentives for playing along the distorted, parallel reality of #drav.

So, now, when they warn, "if #drav falls, caste will come in", what do they mean? Its a warning to tamils. They say "If you discard the #drav movt that I built, I will drop my 'caste annihilation' drama, and become extremely casteist, like I was, in the old times".

A=B.

The police is the thief.

Senior Journalist Mani. Is he a mudaliar himself?

"என்னோட அரசியலை தூக்கி போட்டனா மறுபடியும் பழைய மாதிரி உன்னை மிதிக்க ஆரம்பிப்பேன்" னு தமிழர்களை மிரட்டுறானா?

What does it mean to say "TN will be saffronized?" Is there no casteism now? Will it go up? Who will be the cause of it? Hindutva/RSS/BJP? Or the goundans, pallis, saanans, who patronize them today? Or, will the mudaliars, agamudayars, chettiars, vellalas who ran #drav and DMK, become more casteist themselves, and then say "See. After these guys came, TN became more casteist. இதோ பார், நானே எவ்ளோ மோசமான சாதி வெறியனா மாறிட்டேன் பாரு, SLAAAAAAPPPP!!"??

சாதி வெறியையும் காமிச்சுக்கிட்டாச்சு, பாஜக வந்து தான் சாதியம் அதிகமாச்சுன்னும் சொல்லியாச்சு. Look at the beauty. The overall statement would be true. There was no/less casteism when #drav was there. TN became casteist again after it fell. Parpaneeyam, won. It was 2000 yrs old, after all. The teeny weeny detail that remains untold is. The very same guys who made the casteist society so, were the ones who held their casteism in suspension, during #drav. Whether it be elites, or the ones below them. A=B. A/B is weighing the pros and cons of being A/B according to the situation of the day. If there is market for the bad guy, he remains the bad guy, as A. If the tamil criminals start murmering too much about how bad A is, they discard the moustache and lungi, and put on khaki knickers and become sanghis/hindus-who-abhor #drav.

So, where does an "other" come in? It is a matter of your own casteism, Mr. Mani? Nobody is forcing or encouraging you to be casteist. Your own goundans and Nadars and Konars flocked to BJP. These same old shameless dogs kept #drav alive. Why do you never ever ever look at yourself, and blame your own guys for what they did?

Tamils are very smart this way. They pour hate on Brahmins/Hindutva/RSS for their own actions. You can refer to my previous post. This 'framing' of Brahmins, and raining down hate on them has been going on in TN in many many different forms for one hundred years. The post about 'anaithu sadhi archagar' (all-caste-priesthood) in this blog, is a good case study.

Leave alone the future hindutva in TN. The current and past hindutva itself has no great intellectual foundations. A few brahmins defending Mansusmriti or varnashrama doesnt keep caste system alive, nor did that create it. You are only exposing your own intellectual dishonesty by stating brahmins defending caste/manu/varna as the reason why casteism is rampant. So, in reality, you don't want to destroy/limit casteism, but only want to nitpick and corner Brahmins. This doesn't happen anywhere else in India in the way/scale/intensity it has been happening in TN.

Saying "if saffron comes into TN, it will become casteist and violent and regressive" is basically a casteist senior journalist Mani's warning to tamil people "We mudaliar/vellala/upper caste created #drav movt. We get gratification from seeing that our sociopolitical worldview is the basis for all politics in TN. Left or right. If you destroy my political worldview, I will punish you with my casteism. The casteism that my politics was opposing as actually from me only. I fought against the Brahmins for my own casteism. Yes. It was pure hate. If you end my politics, I will direct that hate at you."

A=B.

I just want to bring out this fact. A becoming B might end the brahmin hate, and that's what most brhamins in TN want, too, but the worst is already over. I want my revenge. Fuck Hinduism and fuck hindutva, which is basically nothing. India doesn't know tamil demons. I do, and I alone had to endure its hate. This is a fight for Brahmins of TN alone. They might have to antagonize BJP/RSS too, because tamils are jumping there, and Hindutva too needs popular support. If hindutva/India had to choose between losing Tamils and Tamilnadu to Christianity/China/Islam or other powers, and sympathising with tambrahm cause, which one do you think they will choose?

As the for the Hindutva being empty part. Maybe being empty is a good thing. J Krishnamurti said that truth is a pathless land and that organized religion is a crime. Many other thinkers have said that. Maybe its good this way. Also, I feel that parts of intellectual abstractions do exist in Indian thought.. Its just that those parts have not been sewn together into one large fabric, like #drav has done, in TN. #drav was smaller, and static, and engineered for lemurs. Hindutva might be more complex. Most of the content for #drav comes, after all, from general, public topics, which are contained in those parts. India has the parts. It needs to develop them, and stitch them together. Or, see the parts, and envision the whole, but refrain from stitching it into a whole. Let it be vague. If you define it, it becomes dumb and static like #drav.

A quote from that podcast about Hindutva (link above).

"The problem that hindutva faced was - How do you sell hinduism to hindus"?

Will try to read up more about the non-entity called 'Hindutva' and write about it, if I can. Hindutva reminds me of Ajativada.

"there is no creation, no jivas in it, no gods, no maya, no samsara, no liberation, no bondage. Its all false" 😂😄😆😏😂😂😂😂😅

உங்க கிட்ட போய் கேட்டேனே, என் புத்திய செருப்பால அடிக்கணும்.

If tamil criminals are going to change the 'frame', we need to isolate it, chronicle and connect their past, and hold them responsible for it.


Thursday, July 22, 2021

Nakkeeran Prakash about Brahmin lobby in TN BJP

 I have been saying this in twitter for long, and I say it here too. Some things do not and have not and can not happen anywhere other than Tamil Nadu. Tamil demons in general, and Chettiar/Mudaliar/Pillai in particular, are demoniac, and inherently hateful and malicious like no other peoples on earth. This is a phenomenon unique to tamils.


There are lobbies of all castes everywhere, in all parties. The brahmin lobby in TN BJP is not the only one, nor the most powerful one. But the *way* he speaks, and slights and mocks in brahmin slang, and the suggests...this is unique to tamils.

"ava" means "them" in brahmin tamil and Chettiar/Vellalar have speaking of brahmins *in this manner*...this might seem like an ideological warfare its not. Its low level. It would be scorned in a civilized society, yet this is mainstream in Tamil Nadu...Chettiar/Vellalar have been painstakingly, meticulously, systematically feeding this Brahmin hate to the tamil psyche for one hundred plus years. And this "ava" slight has been popularized by them. The Brahmin hate of lay tamil people is from Nattukottai Chettiar, Mudaliar and Vellalar. 

This is much much more than politcs or social. This is pure hate and malice without reason or end. The manner in which it is done by this person, as well as in public media by tamils in general, speaks volumes about the tamils as a people. Annamalai's caste, Kongu Vellala Goundars, like all other tamils, played a role in it too. All tamils participated in Brahmin hate. This is beyond BJP or Congress or ADMK or DMK. All else in TN is built upon a substrate. India or BJP doesnt know this. I think Congress doesn't care. Tamil Nadu Congress has always been a Dravidian Party except for a few decades of the first half of 20th century.

He mockingly says Brahmins control everything in BJP, and even though Annamalai and L. Murugan have been given posts, they control everything, and they make these non-brahmins receive fire from the public, while they sit cozily in the background. The same was said even during an ex-pres, Tamizhisai's time.

Ironically, this statement "Brahmins send tamilisai to bear public outrage" was repeated many more times than the actual outrage on tamilisai.

BJP cadre all have roots in Dravidian Movement. They are acting to India and RSS, who don't know about Tamilnadu and Tamil people.

Those people in RW in TN, who are making show of opposing Dravidian movement, they are hand in glove with the Brahmin hate of the other group. Their brethren in #drav side. Normally, there is left and right everywhere, and it is not possible to say one caste is on one side only, though we could say so about dominance, in a certain time frame.

Say thakurs or kurmis are in both left and right. But thakurs on left wouldn't accuse kurmis of causing the ruin of the entire peoples of the state. In other places, the fight is political. Caste fights that become political will be political, and impersonal. They don't take that ugly form within the political stage, and they are not 1/10th as ugly within the caste stage itself, as they are in TN.

In tamil, the public political stage is filled with such venom-laced hate which is deeply personal and visceral. Tamils are a vile, demoniac horde.

The name of the show is "இங்கே அரசியல் பேசவும்" (You *must/can* talk politics here). There is a graphics of a board with this message that stands in front of a tea-shop that you can see in every street in TN.

I think the anchor/producers of the show probably got the idea from Ve. Mathimaran who used to say that he had set up a tea-shop in chennai in the 90's, and put such a board in front of his shop. Part of his speech deals exclusively with systematic Brahmin hate, and propaganda about Periyar, DMK, Karunanidhi and Dravidian Movement itself.

Want to know the castes of Ve. Mathimaran and Nakkeeran Gopal. Saw somewhere that gopal was nadar, but not confirmed. I have a doubt mathimaran could be vellala, may even be grandson of kuthoosi gurusami?

ஏண்டா நக்கீர நாயே உங்க நகரத்தார்-வெள்ளாளர் (திராவிட) இயக்கம் "நாங்கள் 'பிராமணர்கள்' னு சொல்ல மாட்டோம், 'பார்ப்பனர்கள்' னு தான் சொல்லுவோம்"னு சொல்லுவானே, உனக்கு தெரியாதா?

Jeyamohan is Vellala

 and not nair. Actually, in deep south, I think they kind of fuse together. 





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The vellalas, Nadars, Konars, Vanniyars, Mudaliar geniuses like Madan Ravichandran, claim, or want us to believe that they are opposing Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement in order to distance themselves from it. That is a well of malice and hate that is ugly. As more and more people get a glimpse of it, as the newer generations see what kind of monkey games have been played in lemuria for a century, it is becoming more and more embarrassing. Maybe JeMo is spinning his own local, tamilized, ilakkiyamayamakkappatta 'Breaking India' bullshit.

Somebody pls tell @zeneraalstuff and others on Twitter. JeMo is a vellala, and the vellala, and tamils in general, are burying their history.

I got blocked from twitter for speaking too many truths. I don't know if its permanent. Sethu poi melendhu pakura madhiri iruku. Ellam theriyudhu, aana intervene panni pesa mudiyala 😢

No probs. Twitter was never on my main plan. Its good in a way. Twitter sucked too much of my time and energy. I wouldn't have minded repeating many things many many more times there, but that alone won't do. It had only a limited role to play. Ellam nanmaikkey nu nenachukkanum...

Wednesday, July 21, 2021

Savukku Sankar

 Savukku Sankar is a vile son of ******* who spews venom on Brahmins continuously, but this vid was good.


Life is indeed cruel for a lot of people, and they show their frustrations back on various sections of the society. New respect for savukku. Kishore Swamy must learn from this.

Monday, January 4, 2021

பெரியார் மண்


There are 2 important things here.

First thing, he is baiting BJP/Brahmins by saying "lets see if BJP has the courage to place a Brahmin as head of TN BJP". Neither Brahmins, nor BJP should fall for it. Just a hypothetical situation, but a Brahmin as president of TN BJP is problematic in my view, considering today's scene. 

Today, there is some non-negligible support for BJP in TN. Most of the supporters are from the groups that had been active supporters of DMK, from, like, beginning.

DMK is so much more than just a political party in ways India does not understand. It is so with everything tamil. Its hard to explain to outsiders. Today, those groups are jumping over to BJP and attacking DMK and Dravidian legacies (ever so selectively, superficially). They are the ones who are neither upper castes in TN, nor lower castes. They are non-Brahmin, non-dalit, but non-influential castes. Dravidian movement was run by the uppermost elite non-Brahmins, for a century. The middle/low ones who are fighting it from BJP today know well that DMK was their home. 

By seemingly rallying for Hindutva, Hinduism, brahmins and attacking Dravidian movement for being "anti-Hindu" (which is wrong, but which is what India thinks), they are burying the real truths. They are the only ones who know and can speak the truths of Brahmin hatred in TN, but..by making it an imaginary hindu vs. anti-hindu fight, they are actually trying to bury truths. Because they too were involved. Its like an unpleasant part of their history they don't want to face. They want to kill it, deny it. 

Second, more important thing, is to see where this is coming from, not just the things he is saying! Tamil Brahmins have to know and see how Nattukottai Chettiars + Mudaliar + Pillai kept brahmin hatred alive in tamil minds for one hundred years. Non-stop. This is a unique phenomenon. This cannot happen anywhere else in the planet. The persistence of hatred, and the intensity, in tamil public sphere. A random sampling of tamils will not exhibit any significant Brahmin hatred, but...You have to see how Nagarathars + vellalars charged the crowd with their venom of hatred. Tamils are fully emotional creatures, and can be charged, as a crowd. This is a tribal thing. A "tamil public thought" which was filled with the most vitriolic hatred. Not like an explosion...but smoldering silently, for a century. Smoldering hatred, burning hot for one hundred years. How it affected and affects tamils "as a crowd". Nagarathar-Vellalar was present in the tamil mind, in the crowd. They charge the crowd, not individuals.

These millions of talks in public, these stage talks by tens of organizations for decade after decade...these keep alive a certain opinion-world in tamil public thought. A random tamil on the street might not hold significant Brahmin hatred, but Nagarathar-Vellalar venom and hatred lives in the minds of tamil crowds, and it is very very real. Tamil Brahmins have to see that. See the embers. See not only what he is saying, but where it is coming from. This is the group that fed its toxic hatred to tamils for one hundred years, generation after generation. This is the origin of Brahmin hatred in TN, not DMK or DK or Periyar. 

Nattukottai Nagarathar + Mudaliar + Pillai


Pain in the heart 💓

Just thinking about the fact that -  Brahmins in Tamilnadu have absolutely, literally NO CLUE about the 100 years of a most extraordinary ha...

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