Friday, July 30, 2021

Tim Wise on the Blindness of the So-Called 'Good People'

 (1st min in clip is the build up to the content)



Meet Tim Wise. He is part-Jewish, rest-Northern European, an anti-white-supremacist, anti-Trump, and anti-racist. Of course, anti-racist means anti- (your enemy). Same technique as here. Flowery euphemisms. I think he would be like a more polished equivalent of Ve. Mathimaran, though not malicious. I think Tamil malice and hate is unique in the whole world in being bestial and visceral.

Anyways, he makes a good point here. About the blindness of the so-called 'good people'. Im going to improvise upon his final conclusion and take it further. The so called 'good people' deliberately turn away from the ugly stuff *in order to remain 'good people' *. In order to retain that image.

As regards Brahmin hate in TN, if at all the story comes out, a few questions may be asked :

"But how can you blame all Chettiars, and Vellala/Mudaliars for what a few people did?"

"But how can you blame all tamils for what Chettiar, Mudaliar, and Pillai have been doing."

Well, the above explanation would apply. I have my own logical argument too.

நாட்டுக்கோட்டை நகரத்தார், சைவ வெள்ளாளர், முதலியார், கோனார், நாடார், வன்னியர், தேவர், கவுண்டர்ர்களை பற்றி சாதி நீதியாக பார்பனர்களோ வேற யாரோ பேசிற்றுயிருக்க முடியுமா?

ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு வேண்டாம். ஒரு நாள் பேசியிருக்க முடியுமா?

( "Could Brahmins or other have spoken about Nattukottai Nagarathar (Chettiar), Saiva Vellalar (Pillai), Mudaliar, Konar, Nadar, Vanniyar, Thevar, Goundar along caste lines, like they have been doing?

Leave alone doing it for one hundred years, like them. Could Brahmins have spoken about them for a single day and gotten away?")

முடியாது. உன்னை பற்றி பேசினா விளைவுகள் மோசமா இருக்கும். ஆனா, என்னை பற்றி ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு பேசப்பட்டிருக்குன்னா, அதுக்கு என்ன பொருள்?

(No. If I talk about you, the consequences will be bad. But if hate speech against me has been going on for a century, what does that mean?)

அவன் என்னை பற்றி பேசுவதை தமிழ் சமூகம் கேட்டுட்டு தான் வந்திருக்கு. "நம்ம பத்தி பேசல ல" னு சொல்லி அதை ஒன்றும் கேட்காம, அந்த வெறுப்பை கேள்வி கேட்காம விட்டுவிட்டது.

(Tamil society has been drinking in the hate campaign against Brahmins. They were OK as long as no hate was directed against them. They didnt question the Brahmin hate)

அவர்களை பற்றி பேசினா எதிர்க்க தெரியுது, என் மீது கொட்டிய ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு வெறுப்பு விஷத்தை தமிழன் குடித்து வந்திருக்கிறான் என்றால், அதுக்கு என்ன பொருள்? அந்த வெறுப்பை தமிழன் அங்கீகரிக்கிறான் என்று தானே பொருள்? அது தான் உண்மை.

(If they readily pounce if anybody talks bad about their castes, but hate against my caste has been poured for a hundred years, what does that mean? It means Tamil people endorse and approve of that, right? Its the truth, too.)

செட்டியார்-முதலியார்-பிள்ளை யின் பார்ப்பன வெறுப்பு ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு வாழ்ந்து வருவதும் காரணம் - தமிழன் அதை அங்கீகரித்தான்.

(The Brahmin hate of Chettiar-Mudaliar-Pillai lives a hundred years till today because Tamil people approve of it)

தி.க. தி.மு.க ல பேசும் வெள்ளாளன், செட்டியார், சாணான், கோணனுக்கு தெரியும். அவன் பார்ப்பானை என்ன வேணா பேசலாம். அவனை சாதி ரீதியாக பேசினால் அவன் சாதிக்காரர்கள் சும்மா விட மாட்டார்கள், அவன் சாதி ஒழிப்பு பேசினாலும் அவன் சாதி அவனுக்கு பின்னால் நிற்கிறது என்று.

(The vellala, chettiar, saanan, konan etc know...that they can speak anything about Brahmins. If we attack them along caste lines, their caste people won't tolerate it. Even if they are talking against caste system itself, the speakers know that they have the strong support of their respective castes)

Nobody can say "I had nothing to do with that. I don't approve of that. Im on your side. Im a good guy". All tamils, are guilty of #drav, and Brahmin hate, and this hate was a caste hate. Finding vellalas and chettiars who don't carry any great feelings of hate doesn't change the fact.

So, Mr. Suren, you've got to be wary of people like Ekadanta more than people like Rajavel Pillai. The former are more dangerous and wily. They are the Aravindhan Neelakandans and Jeyamohans and Jeyakanthans. The so called 'good people'.



Why do these so called 'good people' take this stance?

Simple. To be 'good people'. Clean and unsullied.

They know that that hate, which they claim to oppose, is going to go on, their brethren are going to do it. But they make show of opposing it in order to be 'good people'. They may even try to genuinely try to fight it hard, but its all an escape strategy. Also, a lot of such 'good people' also automatically means that only those black shirts and other guys are bad. All others are 'good people', when the reality is that those few hatemongers speak on behalf of all others. They have tacit approval. They make show of opposing that hate in order to get a good name from the people who don't know and see their games. They are more dangerous.

+ A KEY observation. Anti-white-supremacy/anti-racism in the US (and its manifestations) and anti-savarna hate in India are similar to each other. Hate/outburst of the those who have been in the lower order against those who have been higher up, dominant, and successful.

But, the 100+ year old Brahmin hate in Tamil Nadu is *NOT* similar to this! Comparing with India, the sporadic and weak Brahmin hate in India is the hate of lower castes on savarnas, and Brahmins get it, along with the others.

But Brahmin hate of TN is not this! It is *NOT* part of the hate of lower castes on some general upper castes. It was engineered by the topmost tamil castes - Chettiar + Mudaliar + Pillai. They may not have the same privilege they had 1, 2 centuries back, but the socio-political thought in TN is defined by them even today, and it is unique in the whole world.

The savarna-hate of lower/middle groups that India knows is virtually absent in TN, and non-tamils often conflate Brahmin hate of TN along with that. This is totally different. I have never heard Chettiar, Mudaliar, Pillai, Balija Naidu being named, let alone blamed, on the political stage in TN.

2 comments:

  1. The quotation knocks the wind out of the sails of the perpetual canard that Brahmins powered Brit interests. Such cold hard facts go a long way in exposing the landed caste's anti-brahmin bigotry.

    Why should that guy's origins make disqualify him from making such a valuable point?
    Knowledge like this can then be taken up and used by many to deflate canards. Even the naive who are wont to buy into canards that suit their prejudices will have to give pause - until the next bullcrap is spun-up.

    Would you rather he head-on castigates his 'brethren' for bigotry? It will never be resolved and just come across as 'difference of opinion' forever. OTOH solid counters like this make a mark. They expose the claims of the landed castes to be empty bigotry and typical vile attempts to misrepresent.

    Btw கிழக்கிந்திய கம்பேனியா! என்ன அட்டகாசமான ரீலா இருக்கே. I'm seeing this claim creeping now..

    The loosening of feudal structures, absorbing Indians in academe, bureaucracy, judiciary happened under the crown - post 1857.

    Heck, the famed Macaulay himself landed in India only in the 1830s and the changes he mooted happened only in the 1840s. Anyone can infer how long it would have taken for it to have any inkling of social change that caused the ire to the landholding castes which dictates TN politics till date.

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    1. Its an 'elementary my dear Watson' kind of point if you have read Irschick. Its a sad state that we need the enemies to fight the enemies. Like Velupillai Prabhakaran said "இப்போது எதிரியிடமே ஆயுதம் வாங்கி அவனை சண்டை போட்டுகொண்டு இருக்கும் நிலைமையில் தான் நாம் இருக்கிறோம்". I too wish the fight was cause-based rather than caste-based. horizontal, instead of vertical, but that was not how it happened from that side. What will happen is...99.99% of those people who are devout, and swear that they don't carry any brahmin hate, will jump over and claim to be 'good guys'. The only bad guys would then be those black shirts, who will not number more than 10000. This is a trick to make everyone escape.

      Just like the Nadars, Vanniyars who oppose #drav for superficial reasons, the vellalas/nagarathar will oppose their own movement, but not unearth it fully. Or, unearth it after it has lived its purpose. So, the unearthing is solely to save their own name and face.

      Think about it....if nadars in RW or Naam Nadar Katchi start speaking about 'kula kalvi' lie and politics after 5 years, what purpose does it serve? The purpose of the lie has been accomplished. So, saying the truth after everything is over serves no purpose for us, only for them. We don't need support from tamil dogs. I would rather die at the hands of the bad guys than be rescued by these 'good guys'.

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